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re: Question about vaccine?
Posted on 8/7/21 at 3:40 pm to ShinerHorns
Posted on 8/7/21 at 3:40 pm to ShinerHorns
quote:-Ron Desantis
If you are vaccinated, though, the number of people who end up hospitalized is almost zero. It’s incredibly, incredibly low
quote:-Donald Trump
It’s a great vaccine and it’s a safe vaccine
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 8/7/21 at 3:46 pm to Flats
quote:What an odd comment.
Why do you keep making bullshite declarations then coming back with qualifiers later? If it’s “most” then say that up front.
Sabes Que's premise was that the vaccine does not prevent infection. That is a false premise.
Does the vaccine prevent contraction of CV19? Of course it does.
On the other hand, potato brain claiming it does so in 100% of cases is a comment one would expect from a potato brain.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 3:47 pm to ShinerHorns
sabes que
critical thinking not allowed
critical thinking not allowed
Posted on 8/7/21 at 3:58 pm to Armadillo
quote:
Like a Facebook or Twitter post?
NBC is practically synonymous with those 2.
There's no vaccine for extreme bias available yet either.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:06 pm to 2020_reVISION
What source is good enough? Arkansas Department of Health? Tennessee? Alaska? The data in that link came from various health departments.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:06 pm to 2020_reVISION
quote:Practically indeed. Even with rampant censorship, there are still conservative contributions on FB and Twitter. Virtually no conservative views alight in NBC "Newsrooms"
NBC is practically synonymous with those 2.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:10 pm to Armadillo
No but some company not known for bald faces lies
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:33 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
What an odd comment.
Sabes Que's premise was that the vaccine does not prevent infection. That is a false premise.
Why don’t we just use his own words?
quote:
“They” admit that getting the vaccine doesn’t stop one from getting or spreading the virus, rather it just reduces symptoms.
To which you replied
quote:
False
They are admitting exactly what he said. Later you had to admit that it was “in most cases”. Stop means it stops something from happening, period, end of sentence. It’s a different claim from “stops in most cases” or “greatly reduces” or any other euphemism you want to use for “less than 100% but greater than 60%” or whatever the latest moving target is. If you claim a vaccine works, you’re implying nobody will get sick. It doesn’t do that, authorities are admitting it doesn’t do that, which is exactly what he said.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:35 pm to sabes que
It reduces the chance of spreading.
It also lowers the chance of dying
Think beyond yourself
It also lowers the chance of dying
Think beyond yourself
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:37 pm to sabes que
This vaccine is a political football.
If you are comfortable, get the shot.
If you are not comfortable, refrain!
It's your life, live it your way!
If you are comfortable, get the shot.
If you are not comfortable, refrain!
It's your life, live it your way!
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:38 pm to ShinerHorns
quote:Horns, based on that post, you wouldn't know a "bad-faith argument" if it came from a street walker given a Jackson and claiming she's "in love with you honey" and wants a long-term relationship.
That’s typical with bad-faith arguments.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:43 pm to Flats
quote:It is absolutely FALSE.
“They” admit that getting the vaccine doesn’t stop one from getting or spreading the virus, rather it just reduces symptoms.
To which you replied
quote:
False
Link the CDC's comment in that regard.
Link the NIH making that statement.
Who TF is ""they"" ???
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:49 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
It is absolutely FALSE.
Link the CDC's comment in that regard.
From the CDC website, guidance for fully vaccinated people:
quote:
To maximize protection from the Delta variant and prevent possibly spreading it to others, wear a mask indoors in public if you are in an area of substantial or high transmission.
So is it still FALSE in all caps, or do you have more qualifiers?
Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:06 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
It is absolutely FALSE.
Link the CDC's comment in that regard.
https://www.epatienthealthcare.com/cdc-director-admits-to-cnn-that-covid-vaccines-dont-prevent-transmission-of-the-virus/
What rate of transmission in vaccinated people is the cuttoff for ultimately breading a super bug?
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:07 pm to oldskule
quote:
This vaccine is a political football.
Doesn’t have to be
Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:10 pm to Flats
quote:that's not true at all and is an absurd suggestion that you wouldn't apply to anything else.
If you claim a vaccine works, you’re implying nobody will get sick.
blood pressure meds work, yet no medications are 100% effective 100% of the time. You would be implying no medications work.
Seatbelts save lives. some people still die wearing seatbelts. You would be implying seatbelts don't work.
no one needs to qualify those statements, its unreasonable to assume a seatbelt makes you invincible.
quote:
vaccine - a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
the vaccine works especially in the context of its definition. providing immunity does not imply 100% that the protection cannot be overwhelmed. you are the one moving goalposts by suggesting the vaccine must be 100% effective, which was literally never a reasonable understanding when they are mentioned to be effective.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 5:13 pm
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