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re: How different of a world do we live in if the Germans develop the atomic bomb 1st?

Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:20 am to
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:20 am to
I think Germany drops the bomb on Moscow and on London and everyone in the European theater surrenders to them

The US would still be fighting against them for our own future and hopefully wouldnt be too far behind with their own bomb, which would be dropped on japan and lead to a cold war stand of with germany

But then again hitler was so crazy he may not have been a cold war type and could've said frick it and tried to drop a bomb on NYC anyway

Of course I could be off about all of this
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 9:22 am
Posted by Mstate
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:26 am to
The Germans had a bomber in research that could, in theory, fly a round trip flight from Germany to NYC to drop its payload.

Had the Germans created the atomic bombs first you would assume they would have also advanced even more in the jet fighter/bomber tech which would have been devastating for the UK and USA. Not too mention having advancements in the V2 Rockets, u boats, tank production etc.

It would have been monumental task at that point to defeat the nazis and drive them from Europe. Especially without the soviet manpower on the eastern front.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 9:28 am
Posted by Cfrobel
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:27 am to
Germany couldn't complete conventional bomb runs against Moscow or London without huge losses. Delivery of a single bomb would have been extremely risky with a high chance of failure.

Remember by the time we delivered our bombs the Japanese weren't even scrambling fighters to intercept single aircraft.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:36 am to
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he may not have been a cold war type and could've said frick it and tried to drop a bomb on NYC anyway


I dont think a standoff would have been feasible. The cold War was only cold because of MAD. In the 40's there wasn't capacity to produce or deliver enough weapons for that, so it would have been a bunch of "fling em as fast as you can build em" IMO.

I think the end result is the same. Differences are that London, Berlin, Moscow, maybe NYC and DC all get nuked before Germany is crushed. I dont think Germany builds and delivers enough hardware to the US to overcome the war machine.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 9:37 am
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:36 am to
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But then again hitler was so crazy he may not have been a cold war type and could've said frick it and tried to drop a bomb on NYC anyway


Maybe like a decade down the line, but Germany’s navy I don’t think would be powerful enough for some time to nuke us.
Posted by Nigel Farage
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:41 am to
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I think Germany drops the bomb on Moscow and on London and everyone in the European theater surrenders to them


Germany likely nukes Russia off the map but Hitler was a great admirer of England and thought of the anglos as racial equals to the Germans so I don’t think he would nuke them. He would likely use the threat of nuclear annihilation to force them to surrender and would probably want British fascist leader Oswald Mosley installed in power in someway.
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