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It's the ‘Beginning of the End’. Again.

Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:25 am
Posted by djmed
Member since Aug 2020
3671 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:25 am

Trump’s Former Executives Wonder If It’s ‘Beginning of the End’
Max Abelson


(Bloomberg) -- When the former Trump Organization executive Barbara Res saw that the company’s longtime finance boss had turned himself in to face state tax charges, her mind turned to Donald Trump.


“This is it,” Res said. “I think that it’s going to destroy the Trump empire.”

Louise Sunshine, who was once an executive vice president, had a similar thought. “It’s the beginning of the end of the brand,” she said. But her former boss? “Donald will always survive -- even if everybody else around him drops dead.”

After Abe Wallach saw the news on TV from his Southampton home, the main thing he felt was sorry for Allen Weisselberg. “He stayed too close to the fire and he got burned,” said the company’s former vice president for acquisitions. “And that’s true of lots of people.”

The Trump Organization and its chief financial officer pleaded not guilty Thursday to charges of tax fraud, scheme to defraud, conspiracy and falsifying business records, the first criminal case to emerge from the years-long investigation of Trump and his business dealings. The indictment alleges that Weisselberg, 73, received $1.76 million in unreported benefits over 15 years on which he should have paid taxes.

To outsiders, it’s the biggest legal challenge yet among many that the ex-president is facing. The way the billionaire’s current allies put it, he’s the victim of a witch hunt that’s relying on obscure rules taxing perks. And for the former executives who’ve watched the real estate heir up close, through the twists and turns of his momentous rise, operatic falls and many improbable comebacks, the charges mean something may have finally changed.

“He’s definitely in a situation he’s never been in before -- because his company has been indicted,” said Res, who oversaw Trump’s construction in the 1980s and wrote a book about it called “Tower of Lies.” “I don’t think he can come back better than ever.”

In a statement, the Trump Organization called the case “a criminal prosecution involving employee benefits that neither the IRS nor any other district attorney would ever think of bringing,” and said it “is not justice; this is politics.” Weisselberg will fight the charges in court, according to his lawyers.

When financiers see the charges, their thoughts may turn to the company’s ability to refinance more than $590 million of debt coming due within the next four years -- more than half of which Trump personally guaranteed. The direct consequences of any criminal conviction “could be a massive fine,” probation, or “some type of court supervision,” said former prosecutor Miriam Baer.

On Thursday, Trump’s former executives were spending more time thinking about Weisselberg, a loyal aide to the billionaire for decades. He was “the sweetest” colleague, according to Sunshine.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119585 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:27 am to
You got him!
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60100 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:28 am to
They already got him when he fell for the scamdemic like a retard paving the way for Mail in ballots
This post was edited on 7/2/21 at 9:30 am
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
9307 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:28 am to
Good Lord.

Do they really only have 2-3 headlines? I've been reading the same shite since June of 2016.



And what Trump empire? We've been told for years that he doesn't really have all that much money.

Which is it?
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
3153 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:31 am to
I mean if Trump org goes down Trump wouldn’t be touched himself. He wasn’t doing corporate taxes or directly linked to any wrongdoing. And unless you have hard evidence of such good luck. Financial people will take the fall if it were to come to that. Just like the CFO turning himself in.

Big nothing burger at this point. You guys know I troll yet I find even this overkill.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7652 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:31 am to
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“This is it,” Res said. “I think that it’s going to destroy the Trump empire.”

Wisfull thinking "Sunshine".
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
18234 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:31 am to
So who was hurt by Weisselberg? It meant less profit for Donald Trump!

Now the standard has been set let's see if Bezos has any people getting illegal perks. Let's investigate Berkshire Hathaway. This was elective prosecution and purely politically motivated. This should be a tax issue not a criminal case.
Posted by BrookhavenBengal
Brookhaven, MS
Member since Oct 2007
3575 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:32 am to
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Res, who oversaw Trump’s construction in the 1980s and wrote a book about it called “Tower of Lies.”


I always appreciate an unbiased take.

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The direct consequences of any criminal conviction “could be a massive fine,” probation, or “some type of court supervision,” said former prosecutor Miriam Baer.


Another fizzle.
Posted by Boring
Member since Feb 2019
3792 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:34 am to
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tax fraud, scheme to defraud, conspiracy and falsifying business records


Doesn’t make it right, but there’s not billionaire in the world who doesn’t have accountants and lawyers on staff doing all of those things. It’s not a well kept secret and everyone in the club tolerates it until they decide to start fricking with each other.

quote:

Weisselberg


There’s a surprise.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135366 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:37 am to
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“He stayed too close to the fire and he got burned”

“He stayed too close to the fire and he got burned”
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34849 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:43 am to
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NC_Tigah


Perfect metaphor. Upvote.
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2072 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:50 am to
Weisselberg's net worth is estimated to be around 1 billion. The notion he was trying to get away with tax fraud to save 1.76 million over 15 fricking years is absurd.

But libs will tell you this is clear criminal behavior while arguing that Hunter getting $800,000 a year from Burisma for a job he had no experience in and did not have to show up for is completely legitimate.

frick off with that bullshite.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135366 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 10:37 am to
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Weisselberg's net worth is estimated to be around 1 billion.
Yet "Trump is not a billionaire."
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162076 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 10:47 am to
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They already got him when he fell for the scamdemic like a retard paving the way for Mail in ballots
Trump needs to currently be a little more serious and humble and I appreciate all that he has done in fighting and exposing the swamp.

But I don't think anyone knew how deep the swamp was.

I also don't think Trump had a choice with the China biowarfare attack of covid.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 10:50 am to
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“Donald will always survive -- even if everybody else around him drops dead.”

She thought this was an insult.
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