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re: Cristian Erikson... Danish Soccer Player who collapsed
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:41 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:41 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
In reality, they're just saying "here's an unevidenced suggestion, can you definitively disprove it to my satisfaction?
I concur with your assessment.
I do stand by my point that IF it were the case, there is ZERO percent chance that info would be released. Europe operates in a totally different sphere of influence. That’s just my .02.
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:52 pm to jimmy the leg
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Hahaha, if you knew me irl, you would feel dumb for posting this. Let’s just say decades
(plural).
I've followed and played the sport for decades now myself. I literally first heard of players dying due to HCM and cardiac arrest in 2003 during the Confed. Cup. Again, the list I gave you were all well known players.
To be frank, if you thought of vaccines when you saw what happened to Eriksen and not Foe or Puerta, then I'm skeptical of the claim you follow the sport that closely. Or even Muamba. It isn't that big of a deal my man.
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No offense, but this is NOT a common event...which is why when it happens, it is HUGE news.
Do you actually want me to pull up the list of players that have died from cardiac arrest up or something? There are many professional leagues with lots of professional players. I would wager that the rates of cardiac arrest closely correspond to rates of HCM and AVRM in the general public. So you won't accuse me of looking this up, I know from my medical education that something like 30% of sudden deaths in men under 30 are linked to congenital heart issues like HCM or viral myocarditis. The association with myocarditis and Coxsackie A, for example, is so well-known that it is a board question.
A player fainting during a match is a rare event, but when it does happen, it is usually due to HCM or another congenital issue.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:23 pm to crazy4lsu
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To be frank, if you thought of vaccines when you saw what happened to Eriksen and not Foe or Puerta, then I'm skeptical of the claim you follow the sport that closely.
Learn to read.
As for your questioning my participation in the sport (since 1988 fwiw), I don’t know what to tell you. That being said, I prefer not to give much more info out.
Feel free to dick measure with someone else.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:43 pm to jimmy the leg
Barry Bonds
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:45 pm to Sweezy
Three pages and no link to a vid of dude collapsing...
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:46 pm to jimmy the leg
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As for your questioning my participation in the sport (since 1988 fwiw), I don’t know what to tell you. That being said, I prefer not to give much more info out.
Yeah that's great man. I also don't care. But again, the association between cardiac arrest and soccer isn't that uncommon. The players I named were well-known and anyone who has followed the sport should know them. There is an exhaustive list out there easy for you to find if you'd like. Maybe with your vast experience, since 1988, you can find it for yourself, and then put two and two together as to why each death isn't worldwide news.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:25 pm to crazy4lsu
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Maybe with your vast experience, since 1988, you can find it for yourself, and then put two and two together as to why each death isn't worldwide news.
Two world wide in 2018 and three in 2019.
NONE of those in the major leagues and only one in Europe.
There have been just over 80 since 1906.
That’s using Wiki, so feel free to attack the source. My point still remains, the term “exhaustive“ is bullshite. The only thing exhaustive in this thread is your shtick.
Carry on with your two decades of play (including your time as a 4 year old all-star...
in your Walmart kit with shin guards, shoes and ball all in one box!). Perhaps you can use your “exhaustive” knowledge to help England in the Euros (they need help from someone).
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:34 pm to jimmy the leg
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My point still remains, the term “exhaustive“ is bullshite.
Learn to read. I never said exhaustive buddy. I just named the players I knew off the top of my head.
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Perhaps you can use your “exhaustive” knowledge to help England in the Euros (they need help from someone)
I mean I could. Setting up with a statue at DM, your CF playing in a withdrawn role and the wide players being pretty static off the ball points to Southgate being too pragmatic and defensive. But we knew that when he chose four RBs rather than bring a sixth midfielder. It's a shame, but the 2024 English team should be loaded and deep. They just need a manager who will play the creative players more, as Grealish isn't starting, supposedly because Southgate thinks Grealish doesn't track back enough.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 8:15 am to jimmy the leg
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I do stand by my point that IF it were the case, there is ZERO percent chance that info would be released. Europe operates in a totally different sphere of influence. That’s just my .02.
I agree with this as well
Posted on 6/22/21 at 1:08 pm to crazy4lsu
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Learn to read. I never said exhaustive buddy.
Learn to read, I never said you did. My reply initially was to sugar...who disappeared like a fart in the wind. You jumped in to white knight for her. Cool beans. The bottom line is, 5 players over a two year period is not “common” imho. Or is 80 or so since 1906. You disagree- fine. We will agree to disagree.
In your posts. you ascribed things to me that were not said, or even implied by me. It was disingenuous on your part. You do you though.
To recap:
I said that there are no short term concerns with the vaccine.
I said that even if there were a connection,
( I stated that I didn’t believe that there is one), I didn’t believe that it would be publicized by UEFA etc.
I said Sugar could not provide an “exhaustive” list - she didn’t.
You and I disagree on what constitutes “common” as it relates to people dying on the field from heart related issues.
You questioned my background in the sport (which is actually quite comical).
I will pass on doxxing myself. I’m set to retire in the next 5 years, at which point I won’t give a shite. Until then, I prefer not to say too much.
Have a great afternoon.
I’ll be scoping out the Euros. My guess is that England solves some issues. Peace.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 1:10 pm
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