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re: Annual Juneteenth was not really a thing thread
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:12 pm to baybeefeetz
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:12 pm to baybeefeetz
I'd literally NEVER heard of "Juneteenth" until the end of May last year. Over, no exaggeration, a two DAY period, I saw Google add it to their calendar, my wife asked me about it because there was a FB banner "ad" about it, and I heard some 15 second news blurb about it on the radio while driving to work.
Made up nonsensical bullshite. It's even more ridiculous than Kwanzaa and that's saying something.
Made up nonsensical bullshite. It's even more ridiculous than Kwanzaa and that's saying something.
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:16 pm to BayBengal9
I used the term "make up" in the OP, but that's not what it is. It's an attempt, like in Clueless, to make something a thing that wasn't a thing.
How it all happened at once IDK.
It's fine to me, as long as we pick one day to celebrate the end of slavery, that's good.
Weird that we never before celebrated emancipation proclamation day. Or freedom day.
How it all happened at once IDK.
It's fine to me, as long as we pick one day to celebrate the end of slavery, that's good.
Weird that we never before celebrated emancipation proclamation day. Or freedom day.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:17 pm to baybeefeetz
I wish we were hearing more about it. Make it a whole week.
It means less Pride Month.
It means less Pride Month.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:17 pm to DaBike
Not really. July is to celebrate enlightenment ideas and throwing off the yoke of inherited political power.
The people who did the experiment/fighting happened to be white.
The people who did the experiment/fighting happened to be white.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:21 pm to BayBengal9
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Made up nonsensical bullshite. It's even more ridiculous than Kwanzaa and that's saying something.
Why does it have to be made up cause you don’t know about it. It’s crazy how it’s cause it’s not apart of your history or lexicon, it’s made up and nonsense. The history of the races are not the same, if you aren’t open to it, cool, but why denigrate?
I mean we celebrate St. Patrick’s, but culturally what does that have to do with America? What is Cinco De Mayo to non-Hispanic Americans? Is MLK supposed to be like the 1 black holiday?
It’s nonsensical this thread exits that it’s folk who can’t just be cool with other folks enjoying a thing of their own. That’s what it’s come to.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:23 pm to LABred08
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I’m black. I’m from Alexandria. We had a Juneteenth Parade that led to a concert type gathering event downtown every year for as long as I remember. Used to pass right by my house.
It is not some new creation. It’s not celebrated on similar scale everywhere but most black communities try to do something for it.
Im not against celebrating. But celebrating white westerners abolishing slavery, shedding blood, then turning around and calling us white supremacists just doesn't seem rt.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:23 pm to baybeefeetz
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I used the term "make up" in the OP, but that's not what it is. It's an attempt, like in Clueless, to make something a thing that wasn't a thing.
I agree. That is how I intend the term, as well. And something is certainly "made up" (i.e. a media-generated narrative) when 99.9% of people STILL can't tell you what it is and there was zero mention of it anywhere, by anyone, all of TWO years ago.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:24 pm to baybeefeetz
“Under God” in the Pledge was never a thing either. What’s your point? Juneteenth is a nobel celebration of freedom. Why do you denigrate it?
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:24 pm to LABred08
You aren't reading me clearly. Anybody who celebrated back when WGNO was running ads, more power to them. I celebrate them celebrating.
Anybody who organically came to know it and celebrates it now, great.
My thing, and the reason for this thread, is that it weirdly all of a sudden blew up and people (sort of like you) are acting like it was this huge thing widely celebrated by blacks that whites people only now learned about.
It just wasnt. Thanks
Anybody who organically came to know it and celebrates it now, great.
My thing, and the reason for this thread, is that it weirdly all of a sudden blew up and people (sort of like you) are acting like it was this huge thing widely celebrated by blacks that whites people only now learned about.
It just wasnt. Thanks
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:25 pm to Penrod
"Noble," and I didn't denigrate it.
And the comparison to under god in the pledge is too stupid for me to even argue.
And the comparison to under god in the pledge is too stupid for me to even argue.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:29 pm to LABred08
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I mean we celebrate St. Patrick’s, but culturally what does that have to do with America? What is Cinco De Mayo to non-Hispanic Americans? Is MLK supposed to be like the 1 black holiday?
Well we have a lot of Irish here, that yes, helped build this nation, it wasnt just blacks.
And the US was in support of Mexico because we didn't want European monarchies controlling the area.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:29 pm to baybeefeetz
The overwhelming majority of the country did not like abolitionists. For decades leading up to the EP, abolitionists we're simply the polar opposite of white plantation owners and despised just as much by probably 75% of the population.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:29 pm to LABred08
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The history of the races are not the same, if you aren’t open to it, cool, but why denigrate?
They actually are. Is it ok with you if white people celebrate too? Many white people fought awfully hard to end slavery in the US, one might say if it weren’t for them it wouldn’t have ended when it did.
You talk of Juneteenth as if it is a blacks only event, when it’s literally the culmination of the violent death of 350,000 mostly white men who died to make it so.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:29 pm to dgnx6
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Im not against celebrating. But celebrating white westerners abolishing slavery, shedding blood, then turning around and calling us white supremacists just doesn't seem rt.
Has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with that and it’s a shame that’s all you see there.
We celebrate Independence Day every year, but is that just celebrating telling the Brits to shove it or the entire Revolution it took to be a freed nation?
Same idea. It took a lot to free the slaves but at the end of the day it’s celebrating the day the last slaves were told they were free. That should be a point of pride to a nation that didn’t want to be slaves to the British Empire. That every person in its nation knows they have rights and freedoms to be, exist and thrive. And we downplay it rather than celebrate it?
Is that not absurd?
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:33 pm to deuceiswild
Did not know that. Will have to research it.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:35 pm to TrueTiger
quote:If you're from south Louisiana, this seems almost impossible to believe.
I can't get past the pidgin English of the name.
I hear it and it's full stop. It sounds so stupid I don't want to discuss it.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:37 pm to BayBengal9
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I agree. That is how I intend the term, as well. And something is certainly "made up" (i.e. a media-generated narrative) when 99.9% of people STILL can't tell you what it is and there was zero mention of it anywhere, by anyone, all of TWO years ago.
Ok so then let’s put it like this, you’re saying it’s being hyped up suddenly. Ok, but still it’s a part of history and for that reason, shouldn’t it be known more thoroughly? How many ppl knew about the Tulsa in 1921? But it’s suddenly being revisited because of current events. That’s how it works and should work when a history isn’t taught thoroughly to everyone OR covered up. This is what should happen to that kind of lost history.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:38 pm to BayBengal9
quote:Your ignorance is not my fault.
I'd literally NEVER heard of "Juneteenth" until the end of May last year. Over, no exaggeration, a two DAY period, I saw Google add it to their calendar, my wife asked me about it because there was a FB banner "ad" about it, and I heard some 15 second news blurb about it on the radio while driving to work.
Made up nonsensical bullshite. It's even more ridiculous than Kwanzaa and that's saying something.
I'm not saying it was an utterly mainstream, all-of-black-America thing like they are now pretending it always has been. But it is a thing. It has been for 150 years. It is markedly less ridiculous than Kwanzaa (which was created out of whole cloth in the 60s) and you are utterly absurd for arguing the opposite.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:39 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I'm not saying it was an utterly mainstream, all-of-black-America thing like they are now pretending it always has been.
Let's focus in on this. Why do you think this has taken place? How has it taken place?
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:40 pm to baybeefeetz
Soon to be a federal holiday
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