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re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion

Posted on 6/15/21 at 6:36 pm to
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32014 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 6:36 pm to
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deathblow to the public relevancy of the Catholic church by taking that sort of stand.




We disagree on two things. Number 1 first and foremost Christians should not change their fundamental beliefs with the shifting sand of culture.
Number 2 I thing by doing so you are doing far more to ensure irrelevance than by enforcing it. If you are completely the same as the world around you then no one will even notice you. Joining the church is like signing your name to a change.org petition. A completely meaningless gesture to check a box with no consequences
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37412 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 6:38 pm to
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We disagree on two things. Number 1 first and foremost Christians should not change their fundamental beliefs with the shifting sand of culture.


I don't disagree with that at all. But we aren't talking about whether or not a person who supports abortion should, on their own, be able to take the Eucharist if they choose to.

We are talking about an administrative action to withhold something that is supposed to be available to anyone who feels they are in a state of grace and wants it. That's the point.

AND, let me make this clear, I DO THINK the we should reject access to the Eucharist to politicians or anyone who publicly supports and encourages abortion. 150%.

However, I think the decision and the action should be taken with care and the right kind of dialog.

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Number 2 I thing by doing so you are doing far more to ensure irrelevance than by enforcing it. If you are completely the same as the world around you then no one will even notice you. Joining the church is like signing your name to a change.org petition. A completely meaningless gesture to check a box with no consequences


I also agree on this. SO we don't disagree at all.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 6:40 pm
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