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re: Todd Walker says he would love to be LSU’s hitting coach especially if Bianco is hired
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:57 am to LSUTigers_00
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:57 am to LSUTigers_00
Well hell, I didnt know we were naming our positions. Can I be the guy that collects batting gloves and elbow guards? Or can I be the guy that tries to finally solve the age old problem of our caps matching our jerseys.
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:58 am to lsufball19
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being a good hitter does not, in and of itself, qualify you to be a good teacher
I have never seen a bad hitter be a good hitting coach. Again, managing a team, and coaching a skill, are two different things. I didn't say he could manage. Obviously, he could fail. I've seen guys who had great success at one place, go somewhere else and fail. Sometimes, guys just aren't very coachable. Sometimes, they just aren't good enough.
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Auburn has tried this with Tim Hudson as pitching coach. It hasn't produced great results.
They also tried it with Gabe Gross, and that seems to be working pretty well. But, let's not let that fact get in the way of a good narrative.
And Tim Hudson has been there like five minutes. Kind of early to make a judgment.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 9:59 am
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:59 am to Metaloctopus
quote:You sure about this, homie?
They also tried it with Gabe Gross, and that seems to be working pretty well.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:01 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Has he ever coached before? Being a good player doesn’t automatically = being a good coach.
Yes and he's never brought a team to Omaha, so he is clearly out right?
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:01 am to Metaloctopus
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, but a good hitter is certainly qualified to teach the art of hitting.
No. Dustin Johnson is a sure fire hall of fame golfer, but I would never go to him for swing advice because he has no clue how he does it. Walker could be a great teacher, but it’s too big of a risk.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:01 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Being a good player doesn’t automatically = being a good coach.
I keep remembering the stories of Ted Williams trying to teach hitting when he coached in the Major Leagues. He was, almost unquestionably, the greatest hitter of all time and he couldn't convey that talent to his players. He just couldn't understand why they couldn't see the seams on the ball spinning in a certain direction, adjust their arms and bat angle, transfer their weight, and hit the ball where it needed to be hit ..... all in about 3/10 of second. He just couldn't understand.
It's akin to Michael Jordan trying to teach somebody to jump high.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:02 am to GeorgeTheGreek
He sucked as Calvary Baptist HC in Shreveport
He is so full of himself
He is so full of himself
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:02 am to UpToPar
What's his coaching resume look like?
He's Todd Walker for Christ's sake!!!
I swear people who've never seen him play shouldn't have an opinion on this.
He's Todd Walker for Christ's sake!!!
I swear people who've never seen him play shouldn't have an opinion on this.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 10:04 am
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:07 am to Metaloctopus
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They also tried it with Gabe Gross, and that seems to be working pretty well
does it?
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I have never seen a bad hitter be a good hitting coach.
while that's not true, even if it was, that doesn't qualify a good hitter as good coach. Everyone who is good at a skill doesn't necessarily have the skills to teach that to other people. Knowing how to teach something to someone else is a completely different skill set. There are plenty of guys that weren't skilled as players but were extremely skilled as teachers and vice versa. How good or bad you were as a player has little to nothing to do with how good or bad you are or would be as a coach
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 10:08 am
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:09 am to LSUBanker
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I swear people who've never seen him play shouldn't have an opinion on this.
I've seen him play and he's my favorite Tiger of all-time. That doesn't mean I think he should be hired as our hitting coach simply because he was a great player.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:15 am to ell_13
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You sure about this, homie?
Yes.
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They rank highly in every offensive stat, and if you divide their numbers by games played, they would rank at or near top 5 in the league in pretty much everything. They were second in slugging.
And he hasn't had the recruiting classes that we have. So, yeah, I'd say Gabe is upholding his end of the bargain over there.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:21 am to KC Tiger
Walker son going to tech not Ole Miss
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:22 am to tigerfoot
I can't wait to watch this staff crash and burn
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:24 am to lsufball19
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does it?
Yes, see my above post.
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while that's not true, even if it was, that doesn't qualify a good hitter as good coach. Everyone who is good at a skill doesn't necessarily have the skills to teach that to other people. Knowing how to teach something to someone else is a completely different skill set. There are plenty of guys that weren't skilled as players but were extremely skilled as teachers and vice versa. How good or bad you were as a player has little to nothing to do with how good or bad you are or would be as a coach
I'm waiting on you to tell me which bad hitter was good at teaching it. I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm saying I haven't seen it. It seems like being a good hitter is pretty important to teams who are looking to hire a hitting coach.
I think Todd is as qualified as anyone. I realize he can fail. And I'm not campaigning for him to be the leading candidate. But he is imminently more qualified than some of the other guys we've hired, who also had no coaching experience. At least Todd has high school coaching under his belt. If you've ever listened to the guy talk about hitting, he isn't just a guy who was good, but doesn't know why, other than that he was just talented. There are people like that who can't tell you how they do what they do.
But Todd goes into a lot of detail about his preparation, and how he thought along with pitchers to make in-game adjustments. The guy is knowledgeable. I'm not about just hiring LSU guys because they're LSU guys. Do not misunderstand me on that. I just think Todd is a very intelligent baseball guy.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:25 am to Metaloctopus
this also reeks of a guy trying to help his friend get the job. I have serious doubts Walker has any legit interest in being a college hitting coach
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:26 am to Metaloctopus
Basically some have the knowledge but not the power.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:26 am to Metaloctopus
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I'd say Gabe is upholding his end of the bargain over there.
They hit .266 in 2019, were 13th in SLG, 11th in HRs, 3rd worst in strikeouts, 11th in OBP, etc. This year isn't his first at Auburn.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:27 am to BilJ
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this also reeks of a guy trying to help his friend get the job. I have serious doubts Walker has any legit interest in being a college hitting coach
And you might be right. If so, I want no part of that. I'm just having a hypothetical discussion.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:27 am to lsufball19
That park is one of the smallest and easiest to hit in as well.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:29 am to Metaloctopus
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I'm waiting on you to tell me which bad hitter was good at teaching it.
I can list a ton of good hitters that were bad at teaching it, which was kind of the point of the post I initially made. And what's your qualifier for being a "good hitter"? That's kind of important. Turtle Thomas was a good hitting coach here and was a complete nobody as a player and played college ball at a nobody school. It would take quite a long time to list great coaches that weren't great players.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 10:30 am
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