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I keep hearing Adams is a huge issue with us giving up the 3...

Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:55 am
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4351 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:55 am
yet even when he's out we still give it up. And our defense sucks with him out. But yeah let's keep blaming the guy that keeps people out of the paint and helps seal defenders for Zion to work in the paint, because Jax ain't at that level and Willy damn sure isn't.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11552 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 5:16 am to
Adams idea of offense is to sit under the basket staring at it waiting to get the rebound. Does he get the rebound? NO, he pretends like he is playing girls volleyball and swats the ball giving the Pels a 50/50 shot at getting it.

I would love Adams, for way less money and NOT the primary center. Bring him in for Embiid, otherwise lets get someone who can not put us in a 4 on 5 on offense every trip down the court.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
6300 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 5:40 am to
Adams wouldn’t have helped tonight. The Warriors are one of the worst matchups in the league for him. Also, keep in mind when you compare Adams to Billy, one is making 30 mil this year and the other is making 1 mil and the one making 1 million is decisively better offensively and only slightly worse defensively. And when you compare Adams to Hayes. Hayes is making 3-4 times less, in his second season, and blows Adams out of the water in FG%, FT%,, being a legit fast break finisher and a vertical spacer, in addition to being a better defender than Adams by nearly every metric.

Adams is garbage and he serves serves zero on court purpose. If you objectively went through a list of every center in the entire league and judged them strictly based off of on court performance, I’m not sure Adams would be in the top 30-35 centers in the league, despite currently being paid like he is a top 5 center.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61677 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 8:09 am to
When Adams has been banged up, which has been most of the year, he hasn't been significantly better than Billy.

There also are 2 things that Adams brought to start the season that had a value which no longer fits. Before point Zion when this team didn't really have a point guard, Adams was acting as a dribble hand off offensive hub. It was a turnover prone offense so I understand why it went away, but the team just doesn't need it now like it did the first several weeks.

Similarly Adams was good at screening and getting the ball to a mobile shooter like JJ, who we no longer have. So 2 of the better things Adams brings to the table now have no place on this team on top of him being banged up most of the season leading to him playing at a lower than expected level.

Hopefully Griff will be able to use him in a good trade like Demps eventually did with Asik, but right now that extension is not looking good. If Adams wasn't on the team would you want to use $17 million in cap space to add him this offseason? Maybe on a one year deal if no other options panned out, but you wouldn't give him 2/$34.

That extension was made to justify the high price Griff paid to acquire him, not to save the Pels future money. It was throwing good money after bad, and until Griff finds a trade to undo it, it's going to be viewed as a mistake.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 8:10 am
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19325 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:11 am to
He has the worst hands in the league. If Bi, Ball for example drive he can’t catch a simple dump pass, fumbles it 9 out of ten Willy is way more effective
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111305 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:26 am to
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yet even when he's out we still give it up. And our defense sucks with him out. But yeah let's keep blaming the guy that keeps people out of the paint and helps seal defenders for Zion to work in the paint, because Jax ain't at that level and Willy damn sure isn't.

Offense is the bigger issue for him.

Defense is much better when he's on the court. Offense is much better when he's off the court.

Overall, the team is slightly worse when he is on the court, which isn't exactly ideal for a dude we're paying $28mil this season. Willy has a better on/off and Jax slightly worse, so point being, we could have been mediocre at the center position for really cheap with Willy/Jax as opposed to mediocre at the center position for $28mil.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
12139 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:27 pm to
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yet even when he's out we still give it up. And our defense sucks with him out. But yeah let's keep blaming the guy that keeps people out of the paint and helps seal defenders for Zion to work in the paint, because Jax ain't at that level and Willy damn sure isn't.

Hard to compare his defense when Hernangomez if the replacement. He guards no one. I am not sure I have seen a worse defender at the 5 than Hernangomez.
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