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re: Medical PPE Manufacturer is setting up production in Louisiana

Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by LATiger90
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:53 pm to
From what I’ve been told, they’re trying to automate as much as they can, but don’t have a single person on staff with legitimate manufacturing experience. Just some construction baws that think they can cut corners on a lot of stuff because the owner has “political” connections
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:57 pm to
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For being a non profit Ochsner sure likes to make a lot of money
You should likely stick to medicine
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:59 pm to
Seems like really bad timing. Developing when demand is waning
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 3:31 pm to
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Seems like really bad timing. Developing when demand is waning

Sounds like an idea that's a year too late. Supply has an over-run and the demand is down considerably.
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 3:32 pm to
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JBE getting Louisianians to work!!



He's at every relatively large announcement/opening. It makes me think there aren't that many. I bet this happens multiple times a week in Texas.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 3:33 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 3:36 pm to
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You should likely stick to medicine


Uhh ohhh is that a sore subject Warner?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 3:38 pm to
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Uhh ohhh is that a sore subject
Not a sore subject at all

Just as a CPA , when people hit me with the "geEz ThEY MAkE lOTS oF MoNEy fOR a NoNProFIt", it makes my ears bleed like people who are pissed they got a bonus because of "nOW I dONt MakE AS MUCH beCAuSE Im TaXEd MoRE!"
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 3:47 pm to
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Just as a CPA , when people hit me with the "geEz ThEY MAkE lOTS oF MoNEy fOR a NoNProFIt", it makes my ears bleed like people who are pissed they got a bonus because of "nOW I dONt MakE AS MUCH beCAuSE Im TaXEd MoRE!"


Huh?

Well let me tell you what makes my ears bleed. When I hear Ochsner is a “non-profit” hospital consuming every local hospital, private practice, and rehab center in sight so that they can build a regional monopoly on healthcare.

Which is fine if that is their goal, but why are they tax exempt? The stated goal of a non profit hospital is to provide free care and community outreach. What does buying hospitals have to do with that?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 3:55 pm to
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Huh?
Dont know how to make it more clear. The goals of non-profits are absolutely still to make money, and lots of it. Unfortunately, that is damn near impossible in the hospital arena thanks to Medicaid and the aging population leaving private going to Medicare

Its damn near impossible to make it as a stand alone hospital anymore

This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 3:58 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:00 pm to
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Its damn near impossible to make it as a stand alone hospital anymore


Ochsner seems to be doing well as they funnel all of their profits back into consuming every healthcare entity in sight.

I don’t want to derail this thread so let’s just end it. I’m not trying to be confrontational, it’s just my opinion. I recognize we both have our biases.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 5:12 pm to
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Ochsner seems to be doing well
What about Ochsner and it’s system of 6 plus’s hospitals makes you think it’s a standalone hospital? this entire state basically only survives on systems. Ochsner, LCMC, Franciscan,etc

and you might want to go look up the financials of the hospitals they purchase, and then guess how many years those hospitals had left....You either adapt right now as a health system and venture out, or dig your own grave like Kodak

And once again, the goal of non-profits is still to make a ton of profit
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 5:18 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 5:21 pm to
Why are they buying up small private practices that are very profitable for millions of dollars?

All I’m saying is what they are doing is not what “non-profit” tax exempt status was meant for. If they want to behave like a corporate entity then that’s fine, let them pay taxes like every other corporate entity.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96627 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 5:28 pm to
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All I’m saying is what they are doing is not what “non-profit” tax exempt status was meant for
And since I like you I’m trying to nicely tell you that you have no clue what you are talking about.

Making huge profits and trying to make huge profits was never something to be frowned upon for non profits
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 5:30 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 5:34 pm to
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you have no clue what you are talking about.


You aren’t denying what I’m saying, so what exactly am I wrong about?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96627 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 5:45 pm to
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You aren’t denying what I’m saying, so what exactly am I wrong about?

You are wrong about the idea they “aren’t doing what non-profits are for”

Tax exempt status is based on the government deeming certain entities tax exempt as they see fit for the good of the public.

As long as your activity is deemed as part of your tax exempt status, you aren’t taxed. It’s that simple. Making profits or striving to make profits has nothing to do with it. There are activities Ochsner does that they do pay taxes on because it isn’t deemed as part of their tax exempt status

Now you may not like the law, and I can understand that
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 5:46 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 5:51 pm to
That’s fair, I said it was my opinion they shouldn’t be tax exempt. Nothing else I said was a lie. You work for Ochsner, I’m not under some delusion that I can convince you that they aren’t a good thing.

Good talk. We can finish this some other time
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21611 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 6:57 pm to
The "nonprofit" medical facilities typically make a lot more profit than the "profit" facilities. They don't have to pay property taxes and have a few more advantages than the profits. The most stressful job I've ever had was going from 20 years with the "profits" to the "non-profits" - the waste and throwing money away is just ludicrous.
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