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re: Draft stock of returning and opt out players

Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:16 pm to
If Stevens had left after 19’ & had the combine he had, he’s a 3rd or 4th rd pick
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4703 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:17 pm to
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So it seems opting out helped players. That must piss of the right wing fan base. They swore it would hurt them.

Stupid take. There was a run on opt out players after the third round. Even the network guys mentioned it. The best of the best like Chase, it has no affect. Many of the opt outs would have been in a better position had they not opted out. It wasn't coincidental that run happened after the third. Left wing intellect leaves alot to be desired.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41313 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:22 pm to
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That must piss of the right wing fan base


Since when do opt outs in football have a political ideology? This is the most ridiculous thing I have seen in a while.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4058 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:28 pm to
Playing last year, especially on defense, was not a good idea. That film hurt.

Playing could not help Chase. It may have just given teams the excuse to pick the AL players before him.

Marshall wanted to prove his durability. Guess who had post season surgery. Playing did not help and he might have fallen further if you didn't have a Brady out there who was intimately familiar with him.

Cox, that D.

What Shelvin needed to do was demonstrate that he could control his weight. Bet if he had played he wouldn't have been anywhere close to 350. He is the prototypical boom or bust and went where a guy like that should go. But if he showed up over overweight...

Stevens, that D

McMath, I doubt playing helped

Vincent, if they didn't like 2019 film, what do you think would have happened in 2020. I doubt he was the key to all the problems.

I believe this outcome is specific to Covid and that defense and not some universal principle for the future.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67777 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:33 pm to
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Marshall wanted to prove his durability.


Marshall had a real chance to prove he was a 1st round talent.

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Playing did not help and he might have fallen further if you didn't have a Brady out there who was intimately familiar with him.


Idk.

He played and opted out.

Also I didn’t read anything about him having post season surgery.

Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8086 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:44 pm to
Y'all need to take off the LSU glasses with Stevens.

He's terrible. He was easily the worst tackler on the team last year. Also atrocious in coverage.

All this "make him a LB" talk is stupid because he can not tackle.

He'll be out of the league in 3 years tops.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4058 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:53 pm to
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I didn’t read anything about him having post season surgery.

About the last min of this interview
Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
3961 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:13 pm to
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Needed to show he was a first rounder.


Marshall might have played his way into high second round. But I don't think he was ever going in the 1st.
Posted by LSUZach011
Member since Jan 2021
318 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:16 pm to
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In my mind he’s what Jamal Adam’s worst critics claim Adam’s is. An absolute “box” safety.


I agree, but would you say that Stevens has better coverage skills than Adams?
Posted by LSUZach011
Member since Jan 2021
318 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:28 pm to
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So it seems opting out helped players. That must piss of the right wing fan base. They swore it would hurt them.


Who was helped by opting out?

Even RC (who encouraged some of these kids to opt out) recognized how very few, if any of them were helped by doing it.

And what does this have to do with politics? Seems kind of strange to bring that into this discussion.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 1:45 pm
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