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re: New fulfillment center in Baton Rouge will be largest Amazon building of its type
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:21 am to Cornbeef
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:21 am to Cornbeef
They grey area on the north and west side of the building in the site plan below - that's truck parking and staging right? Looks like they'd enter and exit through a multi-lane gate from the Oak Villa/Florida intersection.
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:21 am to YumYum Sauce
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except its almost identical to several others they're building
It was...before they added almost a half million square feet to the design.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:21 am to member12
Love’s could bang one out for sure in no time. If I had the means I still wouldn’t though that place will turn into a cluster too 
But Amazon aint full of dummies so I’m sure they’re addressing it somehow. I am just imagining dropping that huge hub into the middle of current setup and thinking oh hell no.
But Amazon aint full of dummies so I’m sure they’re addressing it somehow. I am just imagining dropping that huge hub into the middle of current setup and thinking oh hell no.Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:28 am to Cornbeef
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Love’s could bang one out for sure in no time.
It was always expected that this DC (with 3,000+ workers and who knows how many drivers) would drive the development of a lot of service stations, fast casual restaurants, and forklift/truck repair centers in the immediate area.
Cortana was a massive mall that was hugely popular in the 1980s and 1990s, but its outparcels were strangely never fully developed. There's still hundreds and hundreds of acres that are being snapped up around the Amazon property now. I don't even think the Old Navy, Cane's, Burger King, or Bed/Bath/Beyond came until after Mall of LA was built. A lot of the land north of Cortana was actually being developed into distribution centers over the past 5-10 years. So there's probably already demand for truck/DC focused retail outlets, especially ones that are clean and safe.
BTW- the sorting center in Port Allen is coming along rapidly. You can see it from LA415 and from I-10. It's only about 1/30th the size of the Cortana Fulfillment Center though. But West Baton Rouge has also been focusing on distribution and manufacturing for a while. There's already a lot of supporting infrastructure there for it and all of the new DC's that are being built out there.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:30 am to LSUBoo
quote:Robots eat lots of chicken.
That Cane's in front of Cortana is going to start setting sales records once this place opens.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:32 am to YumYum Sauce
quote:Maybe in shape and size, but not with technology.
except its almost identical to several others they're building
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:34 am to goofball
If that’s the layout of the place then I may take back some of my worries and tip my cap to Amazon. Seems like all that square footage is being used vertically. I imagined waaaaaay more dock doors than that. That is relatively tiny. If that’s the case then seems like they’re gonna be limited in how many trucks they can have in there at once anyway.
Yeah the grey area will be mostly filled with Amazon trailers and 3rd party trlrs but again that is relatively small which I am actually impressed with. I feared way worse.
Yeah the grey area will be mostly filled with Amazon trailers and 3rd party trlrs but again that is relatively small which I am actually impressed with. I feared way worse.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:35 am to LSUBoo
Until they open a chick-fil-a nearby......
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:35 am to Cornbeef
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Love’s could bang one out for sure in no time.
The newer Love's Travel Stops are VERY good. They are our go-to on road trips. Usually there's a clean restaurant and plenty of parking. Their older locations closer to Oklahoma City are not as nice.
Don't think there's one in the Baton Rouge area outside of Port Allen. It's rare to find them in densely populated areas like Cortana, but they do exist. IIRC, there's a very busy one right along Lamar Ave in Memphis that is surrounded by a very congested neighborhood that is somewhat similar to Airline Highway in north Baton Rouge.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:39 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:41 am to Cornbeef
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If that’s the layout of the place then I may take back some of my worries and tip my cap to Amazon. Seems like all that square footage is being used vertically.
It's definitely more of a vertical DC like the old Sears Crosstown buildings in Minneapolis, Chicago, and Memphis. It looks like it will have 5+ levels of warehouse and office space, and tower over 90' tall. There's a massive amount of truck parking on site judging from the layout drawings posted. It looks like they are even able to turn some of the old Cortana parking into green space.
It's between 3 and 4 times the square footage of the Mall at Cortana, but only about half the actual footprint.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:45 am to member12
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Where to trucks stop for breaks now? It's not the high desert.
I don't think most people realize how much extra truck traffic an Amazon facility brings in - right now the only truck stops in the Baton Rouge area is one of the worst Love's in this entire country and a few mom and pop spots that are all generally slammed full by 4pm. Amazon operates all hours of the day for logistics, unloading and loading and sending trucks back out 24/7/365. When the fulfillment center opened on the south side of Dallas near the 45/20 junction that area around the warehouse turned into an absolute nightmare for traffic because trucks were showing up to unload and told to sit and wait for hours, then they had nowhere to go after their appointments.
I've been to many, many, MANY Amazon warehouses all over the country. They really don't give a shite about the surrounding areas when it comes to the extra truck traffic that they bring in and basically dump it on the local areas to figure out. Considering how little truck parking is available between Hammond/Lafayette and down I49, you guys had better be concerned. It's not like truck drivers can just do what they want anymore, they're legally tied to hours of service that are electronically monitored by their companies and law enforcement. It's going to be an issue, I guarantee it.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:45 am to goofball
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New fulfillment center in Baton Rouge will be largest Amazon building of its type
....and likely the most automated, with thousands of robots.
I hope they have better security robots than Omni Consumer Products (OCP) had.
SWB and the residents of north BR would have multiple cows (and rightfully so) if Amazon's security robots went off like OCP's did in Detroit.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:47 am to dewster
I had to chuckle when the first guy mentioned them, I’m typing from a brand new one right across the street from a Nissan warehouse I delivered to not that long ago and this was all woods. Couldn’t believe it was here, they’re popping up everywhere.
And you are spot on about the older ones especially that one on Lamar! That and those two Pilots down the road are some of the sketchiest truck stops in this country. Unfortunately I frequent them often
And you are spot on about the older ones especially that one on Lamar! That and those two Pilots down the road are some of the sketchiest truck stops in this country. Unfortunately I frequent them often
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:51 am to Pedro
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this part of your question really confuses me. Why would they need to stop that close to the facility?
Truckers can only drive 11 hours in a 14 hour window from when they start their day - once that clock starts ticking, it can only be stopped for certain reasons and Amazon taking 3+ hours to unload and count freight at their dock while the driver is sitting there isn't one of them. If the driver has less than an hour left to drive in their day when they're finished unloading, they have to go somewhere to do their 10 hour breaks to reset their clocks.
I've been a truck driver for nearly a decade now, and considering the size of the facility they're building theres nowhere near enough parking nearby available for it in BR - and trust me, Amazon isn't going to allow the drivers to park on their property overnights. Their policy for truck drivers is to leave or be towed after unloading no matter what their hours of service are.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:54 am to goofball
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They also need to synchronize the traffic lights all the way down Airline, like they should have done 20 years ago.
Also listed in the funded projects I linked.
Only 13 years after it should have been done.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:55 am to Horsemeat
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I don't think most people realize how much extra truck traffic an Amazon facility brings in - right now the only truck stops in the Baton Rouge area is one of the worst Love's in this entire country and a few mom and pop spots that are all generally slammed full by 4pm. Amazon operates all hours of the day for logistics, unloading and loading and sending trucks back out 24/7/365. When the fulfillment center opened on the south side of Dallas near the 45/20 junction that area around the warehouse turned into an absolute nightmare for traffic because trucks were showing up to unload and told to sit and wait for hours, then they had nowhere to go after their appointments.
I've been to many, many, MANY Amazon warehouses all over the country. They really don't give a shite about the surrounding areas when it comes to the extra truck traffic that they bring in and basically dump it on the local areas to figure out. Considering how little truck parking is available between Hammond/Lafayette and down I49, you guys had better be concerned. It's not like truck drivers can just do what they want anymore, they're legally tied to hours of service that are electronically monitored by their companies and law enforcement. It's going to be an issue, I guarantee it.
All of this until I saw the layout. It’ll still add problems but I was exactly envisioning other Amazon places that are a bitch to get in and out of. No way the BR hub could take in an equivalent amount of truck traffic, they don’t have the doors.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:58 am to Horsemeat
100% agree......
Posted on 4/28/21 at 11:07 am to Cornbeef
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All of this until I saw the layout. It’ll still add problems but I was exactly envisioning other Amazon places that are a bitch to get in and out of. No way the BR hub could take in an equivalent amount of truck traffic, they don’t have the doors.
From what I've read it's still over a 100 door facility. If Amazon were to stay on top of their scheduling and not hold drivers for multiple hours per unload and keep their appointment times as scheduled it will help a TON. But like what happened to me one time outside of Atlanta - I showed up 20 minutes before my appointment and sat there for 17 hours because of a "counting error", that's going to really screw up everything for the area if it becomes commonplace. I generally just budget 3-5 hours to unload at their dumps every time I go. 90% of the time I need that because there's always some stupid delay.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 11:09 am to Horsemeat
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Truckers can only drive 11 hours in a 14 hour window from when they start their day - once that clock starts ticking, it can only be stopped for certain reasons and Amazon taking 3+ hours to unload and count freight at their dock while the driver is sitting there isn't one of them. If the driver has less than an hour left to drive in their day when they're finished unloading, they have to go somewhere to do their 10 hour breaks to reset their clocks.
I've been a truck driver for nearly a decade now, and considering the size of the facility they're building theres nowhere near enough parking nearby available for it in BR - and trust me, Amazon isn't going to allow the drivers to park on their property overnights. Their policy for truck drivers is to leave or be towed after unloading no matter what their hours of service are.
I wonder what the permit requirements are to open a truck stop with a 24 hour strip club like the Gainesville has. That would be a good investment especially if the truck stop is nice and clean.
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