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re: UAP /paranormal primer: essential information for what is to come

Posted on 5/17/21 at 9:40 am to
Posted by LookSquirrel
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 9:40 am to
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“I wanted to update some data in the book, so the release has been delayed until June 1, 2021.”
Posted by LakeCharles
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:01 am to
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Rubio said

So, this is being pushed by a representative from the deep state? That's not very reassuring as far as actual truth is concerned.

Posted by LookSquirrel
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:07 am to
Going to be interesting, none the less.
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The Best Kept Secret
by Jacques Vallée (Releasing May 4, 2021)
Following the New York Times bombshell reports on the U.S. government’s secret UFO program, classified Defense Department briefings regarding “off-world vehicles not made on this earth,” and the Pentagon’s recent formation of the new Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force, Dr. Jacques Vallee has collected materials from close encounter sites on two continents and uncovered shocking new facts about our history with UFOs.

In The Best Kept Secret, Vallee and his research colleagues bluntly redefine 75 years of UFO history by revealing the surprising details of recovered physical evidence, with serious implications for humanity. The book also details scientific documentation of a historic pattern of UFO sightings, along with significant details never before reported to authorities. The Best Kept Secret weaves personal drama, intense secrecy, and hard data withheld from the general public, the scientific community, and even from the U.S. Air Force. Vallee deciphers the meaning of this data for the first time.
Posted by Philzilla2k
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:15 am to
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I don’t get the nomenclature change here.

Seems fairly self explanatory to me.
Posted by LookSquirrel
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 7:33 pm to
Ok, sorry to go back to this thread but, there are so many threads on this topic, I thought it better to share it here. Its from Medium.com and does a good job of explaining what we do know and what we don't know, with links. Quote;

Things we know we know

Since late 2017, we know that elements of the national media, political office holders, and even the Department of Defense, have publicly acknowledged that UAP, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, is a real thing. We know that three striking videos from the U.S. Navy are the real deal, that the Senate Intelligence Committee is looking into the issue, and the Office of Naval Intelligence is heading up a Task Force. People are talking.
We know that we don’t make these astonishing craft that can run rings around our high technology aircraft and seem awfully interested in our nuclear capabilities. We think we know that these devices are also not made by Russia, China or another conventional player.

Known Unknowns

Things we know that we don’t know
We know that the world has not yet, despite new evidence, been convinced that these UAP are some kind of exotic technology or, at the every least, some kind of representation of non-human intelligence. We know that we don’t really know what they are, or even if they are all one thing.
Although we know that the government knows more than we do, we don’t know how much they know or what they have been doing with this information for over seven decades.
We know that we do not know definitively that there is crash wreckage that has been retrieved. We do know that the New York Times has suggested there is. We do know that the Roswell case appears strong based on a bedrock of clear, on-the-record witness testimony from military men and women who were there that we have had crash wreckage since 1947. We don’t know why it’s really been kept Above Top Secret all this time.
We know there appear to be elements of private enterprise actively working in areas that suggest UAP/UFO reality. We don’t know what they know, what they’re doing about it, or what they think about it.

Unknown Unknowns

Things we don’t know that we don’t know
As Rumsfeld said, it is this latter category that “tend to be the difficult ones.”
By definition, this is the simplest to assess. If we don’t know about something we don’t even know that we don’t know about, well, then, what’s to talk about?
Plenty, if you think about it. There is more official recognition about there being something strange going on than ever before. At the same time, our officials deny (officially, of course) that they know anything at all or that any of the UFO cases are authentic. But, of course, some of them do know a lot.
Have they held it back only to gain advantage over other nations? Have these “Others” told us to say nothing? Who are they? What do they want? Are we safe?
Are there only a few of the Others? Or many? Do they have a plan for us?
Why do they care about our nuclear devices? Have they really been abducting human beings? Have they changed our DNA? Do they want to take over the planet? Or are they here to help? If they are, why don’t they?
What about crop circles? Animal and human mutilation cases? Did the Germans build these during the war? Does a Majestic-12 exist?
Is it all one giant simulation that we’re in? Are they extraterrestrial, from another world, or extradimensional? Are they us? From the future?
Yes, he was right. These answers are definitely going to be the difficult ones.

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The unknown unknowns won’t stay that way forever. Soon, they will become known unknowns. What the world will look like when they become known knowns is, frankly, anybody’s guess.


medium
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 7:43 pm to
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We know that we don’t make these astonishing craft that can run rings around our high technology aircraft and seem awfully interested in our nuclear capabilities. We think we know that these devices are also not made by Russia, China or another conventional player
We don't know this.

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We do know that the Roswell case appears strong based on a bedrock of clear, on-the-record witness testimony from military men and women who were there that we have had crash wreckage since 1947
Nope. That case sucks and nobody cared about it until 1980 when someone published a book about it. Then you get decades old bad information and hucksters embellishing it.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 7:52 pm to
There is a newer story about something 2 years before, near there. that is delayed until June 1st.

Eye witness testimony of a couple old timers, that were there and still alive today.

The Best Kept Secret
by Jacques Vallée (Releasing May 4, 2021)
Following the New York Times bombshell reports on the U.S. government’s secret UFO program, classified Defense Department briefings regarding “off-world vehicles not made on this earth,” and the Pentagon’s recent formation of the new Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force, Dr. Jacques Vallee has collected materials from close encounter sites on two continents and uncovered shocking new facts about our history with UFOs.
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 7:54 pm
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 8:01 pm to
Majestic-12 dis in fact exist and so did the aviary
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 8:04 pm to
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There is a newer story about something 2 years before, near there. that is delayed until June 1st
Near Roswell? Roswell was an NYU research project.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 8:04 pm to
Well, it wasn’t a weather balloon that crashed there. There wouldn’t be such a large military presence if there was because weather balloons went down all the time and didn’t have a response like that. They actually had a note to return it to local officials on it. Something important crashed there.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 8:19 pm to
Nothing other than material from Project Mogul.

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There wouldn’t be such a large military presence
Was there? There was a local airbase. It's notike there had to be much effort and the NYU launches took place at and Army airfield nearby.
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 8:25 pm
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 8:26 pm to
Nobody actually knows the answer to that and the so-called evidence and testimony doesn’t point to that either. People aren’t as crazy as the government psyop has made them out to be regarding ufo’s. That’s the one thing I’ve learned over the years. It’s all part of their disinformation campaign, like how they try throwing people off the trail of anything really by calling people conspiracy theorists. We know who coined that term and the purpose of it. Everyone saying they have seen these things aren’t drunk hicks. It’s quite the opposite actually. But, that’s what people believed for decades because of our government. Luckily, people aren’t afraid to come forward anymore (for the most part).
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 8:28 pm
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 8:29 pm to
Are you throwing this out as your genuine understanding of things, or are you just being contrary?
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 8:30 pm to
Big brass within military ranks came from all over the country descended to the site 60 miles north of Roswell and Roswell itself. They essentially locked down the area. There’s a lot of detail you probably need to catch up on. There has actually been talk of a secondary crash near the Arizona border in NM
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 8:32 pm to
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Big brass within military ranks came from all over the country. They essentially locked down the area. There’s a lot of detail you probably need to catch up on.
Catch me up.
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. People aren’t as crazy as the government psyop has made them out to be regarding ufo’s
People are terrible eyewitnesses and their memories are shoddy as well.
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Wee Ice Mon
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 8:33 pm to
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off-world vehicles not made on this earth


This statement doesn’t disprove that they are made by “us”.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 8:40 pm to
Nor, that is disproves that it is not. There is so much credible info and it is not hard to find. If you are inclined to be skeptical, fine. The choice to be ignorant is on you.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 8:51 pm to
Skeptic .com about 60 Minutes story
Being skeptical is not choosing to be ignorant, it is choosing to consider the less entertaining, flashy side of the story.
Posted by CCT
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 8:53 pm to
I think it was in one of these fascinating threads where it was said that the other crash was before Roswell, wasn't it? A month or two?

TPA, I welcome your threads!

TPA:

This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 8:59 pm
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 9:00 pm to
Without checking your link, you do realize the 60 minutes stuff was mainstream pablum, for dummies. right?
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