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re: Interstate highways are racist but high speed rails aren't?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 2:27 am to Smeg
Posted on 4/6/21 at 2:27 am to Smeg
I think the debate about the 610 is that when it was build it split treme in two destroying a black community, not so much about bypassing neighborhoods or anything. After the news broke that Biden wanted to tear down 610 I looked up some of the history about when it was build, and there was clearly racism involved. It was the 60's. However, to retroactively tear it down now would be stupid. Treme isn't ever going to be what it was pre 610 no matter what you do to it.
High speed rail on the other hand is exactly what this country needs to alleviate all the congestion on the interstates. European and Asian countries seem to have figured this out by now, but us here on the other hemisphere seem to have not.
High speed rail on the other hand is exactly what this country needs to alleviate all the congestion on the interstates. European and Asian countries seem to have figured this out by now, but us here on the other hemisphere seem to have not.
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Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:12 am to lsunatchamp
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High speed rail on the other hand is exactly what this country needs to alleviate all the congestion on the interstates. European and Asian countries seem to have figured this out by now, but us here on the other hemisphere seem to have not.
might have something to do with Europe is 1000 miles east to west. the entire continent
high speed in the northeast US makes sense. but not the rest of the country. I am sure one day maybe so, but not now. amd certainly not worth billions right now
Posted on 4/6/21 at 6:08 am to lsunatchamp
Any interstate built involves a destruction of something that currently exists, whether its a neighborhood or farms or forests.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 6:34 am to lsunatchamp
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High speed rail on the other hand is exactly what this country needs to alleviate all the congestion on the interstates. European and Asian countries seem to have figured this out by now, but us here on the other hemisphere seem to have not.
The problem in many cities is getting around once you get off the high speed rail. Maybe not so much in places with subways and copious amounts of taxis.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 6:50 am to lsunatchamp
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High speed rail on the other hand is exactly what this country needs to alleviate all the congestion on the interstates.
I travel interstates every day for work. There is no congestion outside of cities. High speed rail isn't going to eliminate the congestion within cities when the majority of traffic is from those cities' residents.
You also can't compare the US to other countries. No other country has the number of cars per capita as the US. High speed rail does not fit with our culture. If it did, it would have already been done. HSR is not new technology. It's simply not profitable here.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 7:01 am to lsunatchamp
We need the line-item upvote.
These rail plans all envision dividing communities and properties ... not over a mile of two like loops and bypasses, but rather over hundreds or thousands of miles. For the most part, the affected landowners are rural whites.
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I think the debate about the 610 is that when it was build it split treme in two destroying a black community, not so much about bypassing neighborhoods or anything. After the news broke that Biden wanted to tear down 610 I looked up some of the history about when it was build, and there was clearly racism involved. It was the 60's. However, to retroactively tear it down now would be stupid. Treme isn't ever going to be what it was pre 610 no matter what you do to it.
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High speed rail on the other hand is exactly what this country needs to alleviate all the congestion on the interstates. European and Asian countries seem to have figured this out by now, but us here on the other hemisphere seem to have not.
These rail plans all envision dividing communities and properties ... not over a mile of two like loops and bypasses, but rather over hundreds or thousands of miles. For the most part, the affected landowners are rural whites.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 7:55 am
Posted on 4/6/21 at 7:21 am to lsunatchamp
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High speed rail on the other hand is exactly what this country needs to waste money on.
FIFY
High speed rail in the US outside of a couple regions would be a waste of time and money.
Hell, even the Texas high speed rail I think is a waste. Dallas to Houston in 2 hours or whatever? For how much? I can do Southwest in an hour for under $200 if I needed to go today, let alone bought an advanced ticket.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 8:40 am to lsunatchamp
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there was clearly racism involved. It was the 60's
So when they spilt up Metairie building I-10 in the 60's there wasn't racism?
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