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re: Its time to take America back

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Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:35 pm to
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m just disputing the notion that that moment was the marker when politics turned ugly.



And you're wrong. Bork was a case study for us in one of my graduate classes on how SCOTUS approval process fundamentally shifted from being fairly apolitical to one of the hardest fought politically.

It's also worth looking at the voting record for SCOTUS nominees from Republican and Democrat presidents. There is a rather large difference between the two when it comes to bipartisan approval post-Bork.

This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:36 pm to
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LNCHBOX
Stop posting faster than me dammit
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:36 pm to
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Little miss believe all women poster child for starters.





I have no clue who you are referring to.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:36 pm to
Ive beaten up on that moron enough the last few weeks. Time for someone else to get a chance.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:37 pm to
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I have no clue who you are referring to.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43480 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:37 pm to
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The lives of cops and staff members of those same politicians were in danger as well.


No they weren't.

The politicians weren't even in any danger.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:37 pm to
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I have no clue who you are referring to.


Oof. C'mon man.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:37 pm to
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I have no clue who you are referring to.


Are you lying of a moron?
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:39 pm to
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And using the term insurrection is just as poor a choice


True. The correct term is a failed putsch.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43480 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:39 pm to
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True. The correct term is a failed putsch.


It is not a correct term in any way, shape, or form Comrade.

Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:41 pm to
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It is not a correct term in any way, shape, or form Comrade.


How is it not lady?
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:42 pm to
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The politicians weren't even in any danger.
The were posting to their IG or taking a nap on the floor

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43480 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:42 pm to
Because there was no attempt to overthrow the government to start.

Any other stupid fricking questions you want to ask?
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:43 pm to
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failed putsch
Only one side was armed. Wonder how that turned out.

Posted by c on z
Zamunda
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:43 pm to
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It was a political protest. Period.

Considering that this was an attempt at an revolt against the government, especially during a time when they were trying to certify the election, that is easily classified as an insurrection.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43480 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:44 pm to
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Considering that this was an attempt at an revolt against the government


Except it wasn't.

Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:44 pm to
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insurrection
You generally use weapons in an insurrection.

Only one side was armed.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:44 pm to
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There is no comparison between the two. And using the term insurrection is just as poor a choice as constant calls of racism and sexism. You can say it a thousand times. It does not make it so. It just undermines what the true meaning of it is.

It was a political protest. Period.


If all you acknowledge is that a lectern was moved then you are just as disingenuous as those that turn a blind eye to the BLM riots. Both were political protests in nature, both went beyond the pale.

When one can't condemn the actions of a group just because they may support or oppose the same politician(s) or movement(s) then they become part of the problem.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:45 pm to
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Because there was no attempt to overthrow the government to start.




Maybe not, but there was certainly an attempt to disrupt and halt the proceedings of government business, and nobody knows what might have happened had those lunatics been able to gain entry to the House chambers while the proceedings were going on and all members were present. It's laughably sad how so many want to downplay the seriousness of that day.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:46 pm to
I think they were absolute and utter idiots to enter the Capitol building and do what they did. Period. But to call it an insurrection is pure hyperbole that does nothing to enhance the dialogue. It is meaningless drivel.
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