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Has technology today made great photography less impressive?
Posted on 2/27/21 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 2/27/21 at 1:35 pm
There was a Twitter post of an awesome photo someone captured of a runner in the 1980’s and it got me thinking. It’s so much easier to take great photos today because
A. Cameras are everywhere thanks to cell phones
B. Camera technology is so advanced that the expensive cameras can capture hundreds of photos a second in super high resolution.
All a sports or nature photographer today really has to do is just find the action and then click a button, sort through the thousands of photos later to find a few epic ones.
I took family photos a few days ago and I almost felt ripped off, we paid a lot of money and all they did is just take a million photos super fast and then sorted through to pull out the good ones. Basically the camera does all the work now
A. Cameras are everywhere thanks to cell phones
B. Camera technology is so advanced that the expensive cameras can capture hundreds of photos a second in super high resolution.
All a sports or nature photographer today really has to do is just find the action and then click a button, sort through the thousands of photos later to find a few epic ones.
I took family photos a few days ago and I almost felt ripped off, we paid a lot of money and all they did is just take a million photos super fast and then sorted through to pull out the good ones. Basically the camera does all the work now
Posted on 2/27/21 at 1:41 pm to Tiger1242
Good topic.
No.
But it has made decent to good photography less impressive. I never see iPhone shots from a non-photographer where I go "holy shite that's really good". But I do see plenty of phone camera shots that capture a candid much better than the point and shoots of old and that previously would have required some advanced amateur/enthusiast gear to get most of the time.
As for a family photographer, it's hit or miss. So many newborn/family/portrait folks are suburban women with basic DSLRs who do exactly what you say. It's not surprising when you think about the type drawn to that style of work. Unfortunately, many of those photographers would be wrecked by a decent weekender who can put together a good landscape/street/etc. composition. I've seen a lot of embarrassingly bad "pro" wedding/family shoots.
No.
But it has made decent to good photography less impressive. I never see iPhone shots from a non-photographer where I go "holy shite that's really good". But I do see plenty of phone camera shots that capture a candid much better than the point and shoots of old and that previously would have required some advanced amateur/enthusiast gear to get most of the time.
As for a family photographer, it's hit or miss. So many newborn/family/portrait folks are suburban women with basic DSLRs who do exactly what you say. It's not surprising when you think about the type drawn to that style of work. Unfortunately, many of those photographers would be wrecked by a decent weekender who can put together a good landscape/street/etc. composition. I've seen a lot of embarrassingly bad "pro" wedding/family shoots.
This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 2/27/21 at 1:46 pm to Tiger1242
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I took family photos a few days ago and I almost felt ripped off, we paid a lot of money and all they did is just take a million photos super fast and then sorted through to pull out the good ones. Basically the camera does all the work now
The camera doesn't buy itself. The accessories don't buy themselves. The lighting rigs, the customer acquisition, the time they spend actually sorting through all those shots, then some cleaning up with more technology, all that is time and/or money. Then there's profit on top of that. Nobody works for free.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 1:47 pm to Tiger1242
My brother started out in photography and does marketing.
He used to work really hard at getting a good photo. Now he just needs a few shots and does the rest on the computer. He doesn’t stress about the actual photo taking much at all anymore.
He used to work really hard at getting a good photo. Now he just needs a few shots and does the rest on the computer. He doesn’t stress about the actual photo taking much at all anymore.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 1:48 pm to Tiger1242
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I took family photos a few days ago and I almost felt ripped off, we paid a lot of money and all they did is just take a million photos super fast and then sorted through to pull out the good ones. Basically the camera does all the work now
They did the same thing back in the day too. It just cost more b/c they were shooting on film. Photogs still have to set the shot up w/composition and lighting which makes a huge difference when the person is skilled at it. It's not just point and shoot.
This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 2/27/21 at 1:49 pm to deeprig9
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The camera doesn't buy itself. The accessories don't buy themselves. The lighting rigs, the customer acquisition, the time they spend actually sorting through all those shots, then some cleaning up with more technology, all that is time and/or money. Then there's profit on top of that. Nobody works for free.
This isn’t a complaining about paying thread it was just an example and you proved my point. Basically anyone with the means could go buy the equipment and do the job, not a lot of skill involved anymore.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 1:51 pm to Tiger1242
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Basically anyone with the means could go buy the equipment and do the job, not a lot of skill involved anymore.
Just b/c anyone can buy the equipment doesn't mean they can take good pictures.
Having worked with professional photographers there is still quite a bit of time, skill, and effort that goes into creating good photography.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 1:53 pm to Tiger1242
You chose a bad photographer. There’s no comparison between a phone and a DSLR. An iPhone can take a great picture, and it’s convenient. But, you’d never use it if you need to take a great picture.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 1:54 pm to Tiger1242
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This isn’t a complaining about paying thread it was just an example and you proved my point. Basically anyone with the means could go buy the equipment and do the job, not a lot of skill involved anymore.
But the question is are you going to go pay some Leica ambassador several grand to take shots for your Christmas card? It's diminishing returns.
IMO it's like wine. Is great, well made wine from amazing terroir better? Yes
Better enough to justify the price/effort for the average drinker? No
To the refined drinker? Yes, without question.
As someone who searched forever to find a newborn/family photographer who was really skilled, there just aren't many out there. Will anyone notice the difference but me? Probably not.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 1:58 pm to lsuconnman
Btw this wasn’t supposed to be a rag on the photographer who took my family photos, they came out great and we were super happy with them. It was more of a thread about how much simpler it is to take a great photo now that cameras are so advanced
Posted on 2/27/21 at 2:02 pm to Tiger1242
I looked over old family pictures recently. These were random 80s and 90s pictures. The fact that these were not ultra high resolution made it vintage and really brings back the memories. I wouldn’t want to change them.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 2:07 pm to Tiger1242
You left out post production (digital editing and enhancement with software tools like photoshop) which enables photographers to turn mediocre pictures into great ones.
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All a sports or nature photographer today really has to do is just find the action and then click a button,
I still think "subject matter" and framing, angles, reference, etc. are the most important element. People see some amazing nature photo and don't realize that the photographer might have hiked 20 miles to that point and spent days waiting for the perfect lighting conditions or risked his life climbing to some dangerous point to get a great angle.
On a lark, I bought a semi-nice full frame camera and decided to explore photography as a potential hobby. It didn't take me long to realize that simply clicking a button with better technology is only a small part of the battle. Even in regards to the technology there is a lot to learn, develop and master in terms of camera settings, lenses, etc.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 2:13 pm to Tiger1242
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sort through the thousands of photos later to find a few epic ones.
They basically did the same before digital photography. It's just cheaper and easier today...
Posted on 2/27/21 at 2:14 pm to Tiger1242
I’d argue it’s harder to take a great photo now. The fundamentals of photography haven’t changed in 150 years. The fact it’s so easy to take a good photo today, makes it increasingly difficult to take great ones.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 2:19 pm to Tiger1242
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Has technology today made people less impressive?
Fixed it for you
Posted on 2/27/21 at 3:15 pm to Tiger1242
Great pictures have little to nothing to do with the equipment used. They don’t start out as a bunch of mediocre shots that are later edited in photoshop, they are great the moment they are taken. You can learn to be a good photographer, but like athletes, the great ones are just born with a gift.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 3:18 pm to Tiger1242
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Basically anyone with the means could go buy the equipment and do the job, not a lot of skill involved anymore.
Then go do it.
This is like when people complain about painters who focus on the abstract or sports journalists who spout bad takes.
If you can do the same job better and it's something you desire to do or can replace your current low-paying profession, go do it.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 3:27 pm to Tiger1242
I can’t imagine using an old film camera and taking shots trying to figure out if I had the right iso setting or trying to figure out if it was under or over exposed. Pretty nice to be able to review the shots on the camera itself and make adjustments.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:17 pm to Tiger1242
There are so many avenues of discussion here. I just want to say most people have no clue how to distinguish great photography from good amateur photography. Even generic art critics (who haven't studied photography) are clueless.
Most people have no idea that taking a selfie at arm's length makes your face look distorted and bad. But even people who recognize the distortion think that it's because of the wide-angle lens (the real reason is the camera-to-face distance). Because people don't understand photography, their standards are very low. People just want to look good in photos, and they want their scenery photos to be sharp and well-exposed. Digital cameras have made it possible to take more of those shots, but that doesn't make the pictures great, and digital cameras don't improve an amateur's chances of shooting a great wedding album, or any event where you have just one chance to capture a moment.
If study photography a little bit, you will see the world very differently.
Most people have no idea that taking a selfie at arm's length makes your face look distorted and bad. But even people who recognize the distortion think that it's because of the wide-angle lens (the real reason is the camera-to-face distance). Because people don't understand photography, their standards are very low. People just want to look good in photos, and they want their scenery photos to be sharp and well-exposed. Digital cameras have made it possible to take more of those shots, but that doesn't make the pictures great, and digital cameras don't improve an amateur's chances of shooting a great wedding album, or any event where you have just one chance to capture a moment.
If study photography a little bit, you will see the world very differently.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:17 pm to Tiger1242
I have a Canon R6. Very hard to take a bad picture.
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