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NETFLIX virtue signaling is getting out of hand
Posted on 2/21/21 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 2/21/21 at 2:05 pm
As a minority myself, I am genuinely happy to see minority leads get more opportunities and work in the limelight. However, I find it annoying that writers insist on keeping the same played out elements in every single new female led Netflix movie.
Igave Ava a shot, didn’t mind it too much, I mean most action flicks are unbelievable. But me and my wife sat down to watch I Cared A Lot (#1 trending movie) and in the first 5 minutes, out of the blue the lead character is telling this man how he hates that he lost to someone with a vagina, he can’t standing losing to a female because he has a penis, etc. Completely irrelevant and of course the guy she was talking to looked like a southern redneck. And of course the lead was a lesbian. I reluctantly finished an abysmal movie that focused more on girl power than quality.
How hard is it to do something original or at the very least move on from marginalizing minorities and females.
Igave Ava a shot, didn’t mind it too much, I mean most action flicks are unbelievable. But me and my wife sat down to watch I Cared A Lot (#1 trending movie) and in the first 5 minutes, out of the blue the lead character is telling this man how he hates that he lost to someone with a vagina, he can’t standing losing to a female because he has a penis, etc. Completely irrelevant and of course the guy she was talking to looked like a southern redneck. And of course the lead was a lesbian. I reluctantly finished an abysmal movie that focused more on girl power than quality.
How hard is it to do something original or at the very least move on from marginalizing minorities and females.
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 2:28 pm
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 2:13 pm to 13SaintTiger
I’ve always said if you want to have a female protagonist that’s fine. But there’s a way to do that and still be entertaining. Shoving SJW messages (that often times don’t make sense anyway) down the viewer’s throat will only turn people off from the movie.
In a similar vein, movies that try to hard to make every single line funny are terrible, as opposed to movies that are just funny within the natural flow of the movie.
In a similar vein, movies that try to hard to make every single line funny are terrible, as opposed to movies that are just funny within the natural flow of the movie.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 2:30 pm to 13SaintTiger
quote:Oh no!
And of course the lead was a lesbian.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 2:40 pm to CocomoLSU
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But there’s a way to do that and still be entertaining
Started watching the Alien franchise for the first time ever (yeah yeah I know), and that’s an example of a great female lead done right. Never once felt forced or made me roll my eyes.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 2:44 pm to pvilleguru
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Oh no!
I bet you hold the fast and furious series in high regard
Posted on 2/21/21 at 2:45 pm to 13SaintTiger
quote:I think Tokyo Drift was the last one I watched.
I bet you hold the fast and furious series in high regard
Posted on 2/21/21 at 2:46 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:they often fail horribly at writing women; instead of making a believable female protagonist they instead essentially make the lead female but with 100% male attributes. It's lazy writing.
I’ve always said if you want to have a female protagonist that’s fine. But there’s a way to do that and still be entertaining.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 2:51 pm to 13SaintTiger
You do realize Ava is not a Netflix original movie correct? They stream it now.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:03 pm to 13SaintTiger
Yep. This is why finding new content is so hard. The Entertainment industry is way more invested in "teaching" us their worldviews than providing quality content with depth.
Did I mention it's all pretty shallow? I remember when they human condition wasn't relegated to sex and gender or race. I remember when entertainment was about character and the human condition.
Did I mention it's all pretty shallow? I remember when they human condition wasn't relegated to sex and gender or race. I remember when entertainment was about character and the human condition.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:06 pm to 13SaintTiger
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the first 5 minutes, out of the blue the lead character is telling this man how he hates that he lost to someone with a vagina, he can’t standing losing to a female because he has a penis, etc. Completely irrelevant
If you would have continued to watch it, you would have seen it’s 100% relevant to the character. She is a man hating lesbian and contributes to a ton of the problems she encounters. By the way, this character you described is a horrible person that preys on the elderly for profit. She is in no way likable.
If it were virtue signaling, they would have made the female lead likable. You are way off base on this.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:13 pm to kciDAtaE
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If you would have continued to watch it, you would have seen it’s 100% relevant to the character. She is a man hating lesbian and contributes to a ton of the problems she encounters. By the way, this character you described is a horrible person that preys on the elderly for profit. She is in no way likable.
If it were virtue signaling, they would have made the female lead likable. You are way off base on this.
So, the OP is an anti-SJW up-vote bait?
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:26 pm to 13SaintTiger
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How hard is it to do something original or at the very least move on from marginalizing minorities and females.
Hey, how else would you know you were inferior if Hollywood and the media didn't pound it into your head at every turn?
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:30 pm to kciDAtaE
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If you would have continued to watch it, you would have seen it’s 100% relevant to the character. She is a man hating lesbian and contributes to a ton of the problems she encounters. By the way, this character you described is a horrible person that preys on the elderly for profit. She is in no way likable.
If it were virtue signaling, they would have made the female lead likable. You are way off base on this.
I disagree that I am off base. Of course she is a man hating lesbian, that’s part of the point. Encountered problems? She was pretty much Superman taking down that mafia organization. She was a/the problem for the opposition, not the other way around. And neck beard killing her at the end further amplified her original irrelevant narrative that the guy hates losing to females. Which any logical person knows he was pissed because she conned/lie during the case, but no, it’s because “females”.
This isn’t a one off that I’m nitpicking, it’s becoming quite common. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, acts like a duck.........
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:34 pm to 13SaintTiger
You had Susan Rice (and both Obamas by natural extension) on the NTFLX board.
Which part of what's transpired surprises you?
Which part of what's transpired surprises you?
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:35 pm to CunningLinguist
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You do realize Ava is not a Netflix original movie correct? They stream it now.
Thanks for letting me know. I don’t know the algorithm but it was in the top 5 at one point, and heavily promoted. And as I stated in my OP I didn’t mind Ava
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:57 pm to 13SaintTiger
I’m not an expert but I don’t think that how the virtue signaling works. But perhaps I’m wrong.
You don’t make the gay female the most despicable character in the movie. Hell, the Russian mob boss who repeatedly tells you the people he has killed is more likable. I can’t imagine any viewer liking the female lead.
And you may want to add spoiler or edit you last post. You give away how the movie ends
You don’t make the gay female the most despicable character in the movie. Hell, the Russian mob boss who repeatedly tells you the people he has killed is more likable. I can’t imagine any viewer liking the female lead.
And you may want to add spoiler or edit you last post. You give away how the movie ends
Posted on 2/21/21 at 4:11 pm to 13SaintTiger
3rd season of Designated Survivor (Netflix produced this season) has hashtags for all episode names :lol Go read the wiki episode summaries if you want to vomit.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 4:37 pm to 13SaintTiger
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As a minority myself, I am genuinely happy to see minority leads get more opportunities and work in the limelight. However, I find it annoying that writers insist on keeping the same played out elements in every single new
Its because audience intelligence is being insulted. When story is obviously un-organic and current-dated, no matter what time period..to reflect current issues for absolutely no reason other than signaling, it becomes "less than".
In the walking dead universe for example. In a lawless society, history suggests people would have been less compassionate and would probably kill many more people just based on race and sexual organization alone. Especially if they've become very accustomed to killing former people in reanimation anyways.
In the first season, you felt a little of that with Merle. He was a small representation of a much larger crowd if we're being honest. A crowd who make up a lot of rural area. Who would probably have a better chance. But as time has progressed, it hasn't really reflected what would probably really happen. Even with the suspension of disbelief already in play.
Viewership numbers reflect.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 5:15 pm to 13SaintTiger
Netflix OC has been doing this for a long time. I remember watching The Old Guard (which I thought was an actually decent action flick) and then there was just this out of place gay guy kissing scene. Then several posters on here said it was relevant bc it was in the book. I shouldn't have to read the book to understand the context on why they hamfisted a gay kiss scene with two tough guys. It made no sense.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 5:24 pm to Triple Bogey
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and then there was just this out of place gay guy kissing scene. Then several posters on here said it was relevant bc it was in the book. I shouldn't have to read the book to understand the context on why they hamfisted a gay kiss scene with two tough guys. It made no sense.
They had been established as gay and in a relationship throughout the whole movie. How was them kissing before they thought they would die "out of nowhere"?
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