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re: So Alabama seems to lead for UT LB Henry To’oto’o
Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:49 am to I20goon
Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:49 am to I20goon
I readily admit it doesn't make sense to me, but I don't pay enough attention to try to make it make sense.
It just seems contradictory that our depth historically takes a hit because so many of our players leave after three years but we can't "backfill" while Alabama historically has draft eligible players come back each year AND can sign over 25 each year. But I guess that's what makes Saban the GOAT.
It just seems contradictory that our depth historically takes a hit because so many of our players leave after three years but we can't "backfill" while Alabama historically has draft eligible players come back each year AND can sign over 25 each year. But I guess that's what makes Saban the GOAT.
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:13 am to Nissanmaxima
I guess Henry will
Be driving a Dodge Charger soon
Be driving a Dodge Charger soon
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:20 am to Nissanmaxima
Saban has said they hire top legal professors, MIT statisticians, and other professionals and you're seeing the results yearly. They find these grey areas that no one else does that are within the rules.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:43 am to dstone12
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Why not just make it hard 85. Doesn’t matter how they get there. 33 if needed.
They need to make it 65. Better parity would ensue. Can't stash great players as much anymore.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:10 pm to Old Money
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They find these grey areas that no one else does that are within the rules.
Sorry I call BS on this and will always call BS on it. We all know shady shite goes on at ALL top power 5 schools. Alabama just takes it to another level! I guarantee you that if LSU rips off 3 to 5 #1 recruiting classes we will be investigated!
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:11 pm to CatfishJohn
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They need to make it 65. Better parity would ensue. Can't stash great players as much anymore.
I’m beginning to come around to the idea of fewer scholarships as well. The game has become boring with the lack of competitiveness. It’s bad for the sport.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:15 pm to pelicanpride
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The game has become boring with the lack of competitiveness. It’s bad for the sport.
Can't disagree with you here. Seeing Alabama, Ohio St, Clemson in it year after year is sucking the life out of it. Sprinkle in the LSU's, Oklahoma's, Notre Dame's and Georgia's every so often.
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:24 pm to Nissanmaxima
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Sorry I call BS on this and will always call BS on it. We all know shady shite goes on at ALL top power 5 schools. Alabama just takes it to another level! I guarantee you that if LSU rips off 3 to 5 #1 recruiting classes we will be investigated!
It's no doubt shady, but within the rules as they are. It is not like they are hiding recruits on campus. They're openly doing it. If they were breaking any rule, they would be punished. It's on everyone else to catch up.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:46 pm to Old Money
Yep, if Bama is doing it then we can too.
LSU needs to step its game up
LSU needs to step its game up
Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:13 pm to pelicanpride
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They changed it to stop schools from processing marginal players and just replacing them with new ones. I understand the logic there, but I don’t get how Bama is able to consistently sign more than 25.
From what I can gather, Bama is still currently doing this. They're getting recruits to enroll without signing a scholarship or financial agreement then pulling current players scholarships and getting them to sign "voluntary withdrawal" statements. They're then allowed to replace that scholarship.
Every other program is eating transfer scholarships.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:14 pm to Nissanmaxima
Hardship? Young man being denied his Charger.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:36 pm to CajunTiger_225
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From what I can gather, Bama is still currently doing this. They're getting recruits to enroll without signing a scholarship or financial agreement then pulling current players scholarships and getting them to sign "voluntary withdrawal" statements. They're then allowed to replace that scholarship.
Every other program is eating transfer scholarships.
a lot of it has to do with timing. They also get kids like Will Reichard and Paul Tyson to take blue shirts. This means they never actually took an OV to campus so they can be eligible. They pay their own way for one semester or intersession and boom when players "voluntarily withdraw" they get added to the 85 with a voluntary scholarship replacement.
AUSTIN THOMAS ARE YOU READING THIS? LEARN IT
Posted on 2/11/21 at 2:40 pm to CajunTiger_225
Saban's shady practices were well documented by WSJ back in 2010.
That was in 2010...he has only upped his game while the toothless NCAA conveniently looks away. Bama is a full fledged pro football club under the guise of a college program.
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Former Alabama football players say the school's No. 1-ranked football program has tried to gain a competitive edge by encouraging some underperforming players to quit the team for medical reasons, even in cases where the players are still healthy enough to play.
At least 12 times since coach Nick Saban took over the program in 2007, Alabama has offered players a "medical" scholarship, according to public statements made by the team. These scholarships, which are allowed under NCAA rules, are intended to make sure scholarship athletes who are too injured to play don't lose their financial aid. A player who receives one of these scholarships is finished playing with that team.
Three Alabama players who've taken these exemptions say they believe the team uses the practice as a way to clear spots for better players by cutting players it no longer wants. These players said they believe Mr. Saban and his staff pressure some players to take these scholarships even though their injuries aren't serious enough to warrant keeping them off the field.
"I'm still kind of bitter," said former Alabama linebacker Chuck Kirschman, who took a medical scholarship last year. Mr. Kirschman said Mr. Saban encouraged him to accept the scholarship because of a back problem that he believes he could have played through. "It's a business," Mr. Kirschman said. "College football is all about politics. And this is a loophole in the system."
That was in 2010...he has only upped his game while the toothless NCAA conveniently looks away. Bama is a full fledged pro football club under the guise of a college program.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 3:21 pm to doubleb
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Bama over signs HS and JC recruits AND accepts transfers.
They do if because they can. Their compliance certifies what they are doing and the SEC office accepts that.
You accidentally got this right but only because you hosed up the grammar and used “can” instead of “may”.
Bama CAN do this; LSU cannot. But it has nothing to do with what compliance departments, the SEC or the NCAA will allow. It is because we are unable to convince as many top quality athletes to come here as Bama can. The evidence is all around us. Every year Bama signs 25 or more top high school seniors. Most years we are unable to sign 25, making up the rest with CCs, JUCO’s, low 3 stars, etc.
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 2/11/21 at 3:50 pm to Geauxld Finger
A prominent 247 poster has said LSU knows exactly how Bama is doing it but refuses to operate that way so it's a matter of ethics and probably not so much about rules and compliance.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 3:58 pm to misey94
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If they are allowed to play next year, the floodgates will open before 2022.
I SeE tHaT aS A gOoD ThInG"
-moscona, probably
Posted on 2/11/21 at 3:59 pm to CajunTiger_225
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A prominent 247 poster has said LSU knows exactly how Bama is doing it but refuses to operate that way so it's a matter of ethics and probably not so much about rules and compliance.
want Bama rings?
do bama things
Posted on 2/11/21 at 4:17 pm to Penrod
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Bama CAN do this; LSU cannot. But it has nothing to do with what compliance departments, the SEC or the NCAA will allow. It is because we are unable to convince as many top quality athletes to come here as Bama can.
I'm glad that someone is saying this, and I'm glad that for once this board isn't blindly downvoting because it's a harsh truth.
But you're spot on: The fact is that every team would use bama's creative back-counting strategies if they were capable of recruiting at a level that allowed them to take advantage of those strategies. But Bama is the only program that is capable of signing 28 guys it views as elite every single year without exception. Despite the fact that we have been on a significant upswing in terms of recruiting, the same simply cannot be said of us. If we were capable of it, we would be doing it--I promise you that.
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 2/11/21 at 6:52 pm to CajunTiger_225
The SEC has ethics? Who knew
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:03 pm to GumboPot
Listened to gump radio interview with Bama 247 guy and they were actually saying Saban doesn’t process players......
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