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What is racism in 2021? It may not have anything to do with, well race

Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:53 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:53 am
To understand Trump’s support, we must think in terms of multiracial Whiteness

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Rooted in America’s ugly history of white supremacy, indigenous dispossession and anti-blackness, multiracial whiteness is an ideology invested in the unequal distribution of land, wealth, power and privilege — a form of hierarchy in which the standing of one section of the population is premised on the debasement of others. Multiracial whiteness reflects an understanding of whiteness as a political color and not simply a racial identity — a discriminatory worldview in which feelings of freedom and belonging are produced through the persecution and dehumanization of others.


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America’s racial divide is not simply between Whites and non-Whites. Thinking in terms of multiracial whiteness helps us recognize that much of today’s political rift is a division between those who are drawn to and remain invested in a politics of whiteness and those who seek something better.


so combining the OP and this article, "whiteness" has nothing to do with skin color, race or ethnicity at all

if "whiteness" has nothing to do with race, then i can't wait for the new definition of "racism"



This ties in with the What is Whitness? article that made the rounds a few days ago

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Depending on the scholar, the phenomenon of “whiteness” can be attributed to anyone with an ideological affinity for “racial capitalism.” The word whiteness, the theory’s proponents explain, doesn’t describe racial characteristics but ideological proclivities.


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The Americans of Latino heritage who voted Republican in numbers sufficient to shock poll-watchers last November had supposedly succumbed to the temptations of “white supremacy.” Asian-American students have outperformed their peers and are now overrepresented in institutions of higher learning only because they “push black and brown bodies down,” rendering Asians “white supremacy’s one success.” A 2015 sociological study aptly titled “expanding the boundaries of whiteness” posited that the frequency with which Indian-Americans, Asian-Americans, and even black Americans are marrying interracially suggests that “most members in these groups are on the path to whiteness.”


remember how it was racist 4-5 years ago to talk in terms of culture values because that is just coded language for racism?

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If you’re confused about how this racially deterministic idea can be applied so broadly, it’s only because you’re ignorant.


oh, sorry...and thank you. oh and this article answers the question of OP? awesome

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And yet, according to the author and activist Paul Kivel, “racism is based on the concept of whiteness—a powerful fiction enforced by power and violence.” So, whiteness isn’t necessarily indicative of a capacity for violence, but a capacity for violence is indicated by whiteness. Whiteness isn’t a purely racial theory, but it is racial when racism is identified in whites. Whiteness isn’t exclusive to whites, but the benefits derived from whiteness most certainly are.


Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:54 am to
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multiracial whiteness

So whitey can be a POC? Cool....and I still don't fricking care about race.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:55 am to
That's a fancy way to say:

Classism
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:55 am to
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and I still don't fricking care about race.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:57 am to
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That's a fancy way to say:

Classism


cUlTuRaL mArXiSm DoEsN't ExIst
Posted by djmed
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:24 am to
i heard a woman on NPR say that changing demographics would mean more black and brown people than white by 2044.
America will be a "majority minority" country

these people are insane
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:26 am to
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"majority minority"


the left continues to gender bend and language bend to suit their needs
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:32 am to
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Asian-American students have outperformed their peers and are now overrepresented in institutions of higher learning only because they “push black and brown bodies down,”


To quote Asian mom #2. Work harder.
Posted by gthog61
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:34 am to
quote:

That's a fancy way to say:

Classism



Yes, except when the left wants daddy billionaire to buy them elections and muzzle their opposition
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:37 am to
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the left continues to gender bend and language bend to suit their needs

well that's really what this thread is about and not in any way about race (or actual racism)

i don't know if i've ever seen a better example of using concepts that are not Marxism (on the surface) to promote Marxism. literally a non-economic concept like race has now become purely economic. you combine with this previous destruction of language (adding the power component to racism) and what are you left with? a system where poor people are the only ones who can speak about any issue and anyone else has to shut up and listen

you know how we joke about the victimhood hierarchy? well now we have the winner: poor people

i have no idea how people would be so shocked to find out that there is a relationship between this conceptual augmentation and Marxism. "oh you want to define race by class and wealth in order to promote a system to destroy both to redistribute that to poor people of the lower class? where have i heard that rhetoric before?"
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:40 am to
The definition is evolving because more subgroups are coming to understand the truth - that the concept of white privilege is a facade as nearly every ethnic subgroup performs on or near the level of white Americans except for blacks.

So the fictional concept of "whiteness" has to change to now accuse more subgroups of participating in a fabricated injustice.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:41 am to
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Classism


I don’t even think it’s that.
It’s just ascribing to non-Marxist ideas.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:41 am to
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The Americans of Latino heritage who voted Republican in numbers sufficient to shock poll-watchers last November had supposedly succumbed to the temptations of “white supremacy.” Asian-American students have outperformed their peers and are now overrepresented in institutions of higher learning only because they “push black and brown bodies down,” rendering Asians “white supremacy’s one success.”
This person is a fricking lunatic.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:45 am to
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I don’t even think it’s that.
It’s just ascribing to non-Marxist ideas.

Tomato tomato
Posted by BEEFSTER
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:45 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:46 am to
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This person is a fricking lunatic.

It reminds me of that chart from a few months ago about the characteristics of being white.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:55 am to
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i don't know if i've ever seen a better example of using concepts that are not Marxism (on the surface) to promote Marxism. literally a non-economic concept like race has now become purely economic. you combine with this previous destruction of language (adding the power component to racism) and what are you left with? a system where poor people are the only ones who can speak about any issue and anyone else has to shut up and listen


This was actually reflected in that Smithsonian infographic about "Whiteness" referring to being on time, working hard, planning for the future, the meritocracy, etc.

White people aren't successful because they are white, they are successful because they write the rules for success, and to form a more just and equitable society, we have to dismantle the rules for success that white people have written, regardless of how many non-whites are penalized by these changes.

We have taken the playground insult of "acting white" and begun codifying it into law as a means of erasure.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 8:56 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:04 am to
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Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:08 am to
I'll make this really simple.

"racism" has been redefined and used by the left as simply disagreeing with them.

If you disagree with the left, you're racist, no matter how you feel about skin color.

Liberals are not using the word in the sense it has been historically defined.

Kinda like they did with their rants about "court packing" for simply filling a SC vacancy.

Democrats are not honest people. They're sociopaths. "Racist" is a slur that can be tossed at people who still use the old definition, when the tosser actually is using their new definition.


This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 9:09 am
Posted by markinkaty
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:10 am to
Ask the "brown" and Asian people if they want to live in a place with law and order and property rights or one with constant riots and crime and gang violence.
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