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Is it a better option instead of gambling on guys like Leigh?

Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:31 pm
Posted by Mbeloso
Gonzales
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:31 pm
Is it a wiser option to grab multiple 3 and 4 star lineman instead exhausting a ton of resources on guys who are 20 hrs from br?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52050 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:37 pm to
Well, you’d have to give up on Olujari, Patrick Peterson, Chaisson, Jacob Phillips, Arden Key, Deculus, and Max Johnson. Does that answer your question?
Posted by Mbeloso
Gonzales
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:38 pm to
Are those guys 20 hrs from BR?
Posted by Mbeloso
Gonzales
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:39 pm to
GA
FL
TX pipeline states
Posted by TheWhitemamba16
Dallas
Member since Sep 2018
1091 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:39 pm to
Go check 247 website... the internet is a glorious thing
Posted by Mbeloso
Gonzales
Member since Dec 2019
661 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:39 pm to
What’s your point
Posted by 3rdRowTailgater
Tulsa
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:40 pm to
Better option is to have an OL coach that can recruit.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34713 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:41 pm to
They tried and missed on all of them except dellenger

But to answer your question- no

The solution is to except your very well paid coaches to do their fricking job. Not to lower expectations
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19160 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:46 pm to
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s it a wiser option to grab multiple 3 and 4 star lineman instead exhausting a ton of resources on guys who are 20 hrs from br?
short answer- NOPE

Even when you seek out the best quality you can get for OL you end up with a high rate of chaff vs. wheat. With a limit of 25 spots, you need to maximize it. Except for 3 or 4 OTs and 5-8 OGs forget about rankings. After they are off the board you are looking for recruits that already have the hardest to teach (or impossible) traits, or the beginnings of them. For example, you can improve natural agility. It's very very hard to create it from almost nothing.

Which brings the 2nd part of your post into focus... resources. The assumption that geography is going to expend your "standard" recruiting resources is wrong. Yes, it will have an impact. But there's enough to recruit 4 and 5 star OTs all over the country.

But to evaluate the one's that are no-miss recruits is what is hard. For OL (and DL) game film isn't enough. You need to drill them and look for a solid foundation. You have to see them in action; that includes vs. dummies/cones and other players. Play to play there's just not enough information in game film about the OLman's level of physical skills. THAT is where you run out of recruiting resources.

So in a way, you go after those 4 OTs and 8 OGs with all your standard recruiting resources that aren't really in short supply. You save the majority of your time and evaluations for their backup plans.

The best way to narrow your search with OLmen is old school HS coaches network. Coaches at Carthage HS will know if Nacadoches HS has an OLman with special skills. You also establish lines with the HS's that actually teach OL technique. Running plays is not teaching technique. Some put effort into it. Some don't. Those that do should be your first call. But instead of hunting for them, if you establish a good HS coaching network they'll feed names to you. Then you can see them workout and evaluate them.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 7:50 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94776 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

The solution is to except your very well paid coaches to do their fricking job.

Being lied to and led on isn’t part of the job description
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34713 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:38 pm to
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Being lied to and led on isn’t part of the job description
Boo fricking hoo

He can’t close.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465858 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:44 pm to
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Being lied to and led on isn’t part of the job description

that's literally a major part of the job description of a college recruiter
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19160 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:50 pm to
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that's literally a major part of the job description of a college recruiter
Ha! exactly.

I will say part of the job too is recognizing you are, or might be, getting played. And then reducing your risk accordingly.

It's not easy. Do you throw an ultimatum at the only unsigned 5* OT (answer: maybe)? Do you play him back (answer: Yes)?

But ferreting out such things is indeed part of it.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94776 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:42 pm to
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that's literally a major part of the job description of a college recruiter

So how does one avoid this down the road ?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465858 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:57 pm to
Recruit better

Make LSU so desirable so this doesn't happen

You don't see Bama, OSU, or Clemson dealing with this end of the stick
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19094 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:00 pm to
I can find you 80 kids in Montana Iowa both Dakotas and or insert any state here ______that are faster than that slug recruiting is a joke the coaches get hyped on some kid when there are a multiple kids better than him. Stop looking at the stars
Posted by the obvious one
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2018
524 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:02 pm to
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on guys who are 20 hrs from br?


Who is 20 hours from BR - are they walking..
Posted by GorgeousGeorge
Nola
Member since Jul 2014
2364 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 5:23 am to
You finally remembered punctuation 5 words from the end. Way to salvage the post brother.
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7805 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 12:55 pm to
Until we get a stud Oline coach who can recruit we'd be better off getting sevral 3* Olinemen and 1 4*. Instead of waiting for 1 magic 5* that dude ain't gonna fix the whole OLine lol!
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

The solution is to except your very well paid coaches to do their fricking job. Not to lower expectations



Exactly we recruit on the elite level at every other position. LSU can draw elite recruits, the problem is our OL coach cant.
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