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re: Trevor Lawrence may really struggle in NFL

Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:08 am to
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:08 am to
We live in a clown world. Ohio State has 250+ rushing yards last night. Clemson had 44.

When the defense knows what’s coming and doesn’t have to respect the run when your team is behind, you have no margin for error as a quarterback.
Posted by Hamma1122
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:13 am to
I think there’s reason for concern
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:20 am to
I don’t think he’ll be a draft bust but I do think he’s gonna be in for a rude awakening against quality opponents week in week out. The ACC is not the SEC that’s for damned sure...
Posted by mtntiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:31 am to
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If he said he was staying one more year, entering the portal and going to lsu you would drop your panties.




Didn't realize LSU is an NFL team.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:34 am to
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If he said he was staying one more year, entering the portal and going to lsu you would drop your panties.


no shite. is LSU in the NFL now?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:37 am to
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He'll only be a bust if he goes to a shite-arse team that doesn't have any patience.

....OK
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:37 am to
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He is the type of guy I believe that would flourish learning behind a Rivers or Brady for a year or two before taking the mantle and making his own mark.


we all know who's getting that call next year in JAX

Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:57 am to
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Ok its someone else’s fault, a great pro prospect has been manhandled by the last 2 teams with a pulse.


No college qb would’ve made a difference against that rush especially with that horrific play calling. Honestly I think he’s going to be a better nfl qb than college where they won’t waste too much of his game with keepers and so much lateral crap.

Dude threw some really nice deep outs and back shoulders last night despite getting no separation from his guys and the line getting destroyed.

He’s not a a sure thing but he’s easily worth 1.1 and he’ll likely grow into a great young like Allen or Herbert.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 8:27 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:15 am to
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He’s not a a sure thing but he’s easily worth 1.1 and he’ll likely grow into a great young like Allen or Herbert.

i don't think anyone is really arguing against this

what they're saying is he's much more Herbert than Luck
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:21 am to
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don't think anyone is really arguing against this
read the thread
Posted by BornCritic
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:24 am to
This is an argument for top talent to avoid teams that only play a few competitive games per year.

So stay away from Bama and Clemson, blue chips.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:25 am to
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what they're saying is he's much more Herbert than Luck


Are we sure that’s a bad thing?
Posted by AcetylCoA
Pasadena, California
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:27 am to
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read the thread

Exactly!
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:28 am to
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The same was said about Herbert
exactly. How many threads were made about Herbert being a sure bust at the next level?

Scouts miss for sure, but they know wtf they're doing for the most part compared to message board warriors.

I personally don't "get the hype" either, but I also know that I'm don't know what all to look for when it comes to nfl prospects. Some people are saying what they think... which is fine, we're here for a discussion. But you have people that know for a fact that he won't be good at the next level. That's just dumb.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:30 am to
He’s definitely no Joe Burrow.

More of a Sam Darnold.

I wouldn’t say he’d ‘struggle’ in the NFL, but I’m not seeing many glimpses of greatness either.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:35 am to
Fields could be another Lamar Jackson
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:36 am to
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read the thread

i don't think anyone is really saying he's not worth the gamble of #1 overall, though

it's more that he's not "generational" like he's been sold as for 2 years

even the people being really critical say he can be developed but going to a bad team/franchise likely will hurt him
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:37 am to
He looked terrible against LSU and Ohio State. Seems the Alabama game may have been an outlier.

He has physical talent but I don't think he is a day one difference maker. He either needs to stay another year or sit a year once he gets to the NFL in my opinion.

Or maybe he just needs a really good qb coach to get him polished
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:38 am to
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Are we sure that’s a bad thing?

a guy who goes outside the top 5 v. a "generational" prospect is a huge gap

and i purposefully used Herbert b/c he's a much better prospect, warts and all, than Allen, who was over-picked as a prospect

sometimes "tools" guys do live up to their tools. that's how you get a Josh Allen. most of the time the red flags never go away, though

perhaps the NFL has stolen from college so much that a good OC/offense can develop a tools guy, and they're the new path. we will see
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:39 am to
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Or maybe he just needs a really good qb coach to get him polished

i'm VERY curious how Allen looks next year without Daboll
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