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College football is broken. Here's how it can be fixed.

Posted on 12/30/20 at 1:31 am
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9042 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 1:31 am
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It is all about recruiting.
This post was edited on 12/30/20 at 1:35 am
Posted by OldNo.7
Fort Worth
Member since Sep 2012
1387 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 2:32 am to
It will never happen, but I’d like to see them eliminate any pre-season rankings. It just becomes self fulfilling prophecy. Wait a few weeks, get into conference play, then evaluate the body of work.
Posted by CajunPhil
Chimes
Member since Aug 2013
657 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 2:37 am to
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It is all about recruiting.


bullshite. It's all about scheduling. For Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson, year in and year out they waltz in playing weak in-conference schedules and out-of -conference rent a wins. Notre Dame seems willing to occasionally take on the tougher opponents and should get credit for that, but they rarely have a good enough record to make the playoffs.
LSU's 2019 season was spectacular by virtue of playing every school of significance and beating them soundly. For the few years that Clemson has been significant their schedule is the weakest in the power 5. OSU has been a habitual offender with a one game opponent of respectability and lately that one opponent doesn't even show up. Bama has a 2 game schedule (LSU and Auburn) and an SEC EAST schedule built on avoiding Florida, complements of the office in Birmingham.
This can't be a mystery to the selection committee it is obvious to reveryone interested in college sports that NCAA football has become non competitive. In- conference schedules should be round robin in every 4 year span. Rent a wins against the usual cast of directional schools in Ala.,Tenn, Ky., Tx, La., and Oh. Should count as losses at playoff time.
I remember some bullshite from Skip over the last 25 or so years about keeping the money circulating in the state In the old days, LSU scheduled out of conference games against the better teams of the PAC10, the Big10 (rip), ACC, Big 8 (old SWC) and the occasional respectable independents. Most of those programs now believe that it is better financially to avoid scheduling competitive games. As the rash of fake bowls shut down over the next few years college football will pay the price and more programs will also fail. We were fortunate the last couple years in scheduling a couple of more respectable (but weaker than usual) programs in Miami and Texas, and in the prior couple years, Wisconin and Oregon. Still our schedule had the usual patsies, and we should have been penalized for them, as should every major program guilty of similar scheduling. How long will people continue to pay premium prices to see
rent a wins because they are a mandatory part of the season ticket package? Some programs are now having difficulty selling season tickets and even student tickets.

tl;dr: learn to read.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1488 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 3:06 am to
Just lower the scholarship cap and force the top talent to be spread around more schools. It’s that simple. You can’t allow Alabama, Clemson, OSU, etc to continue to stockpile 5 stars to the detriment of everyone else if you truly want a semblance of parity.
Posted by GardenDistrictTiger
Fort Worth
Member since Sep 2020
2480 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 3:48 am to
It can be fixed by having universal admission standards and getting rid of all the special perks that benefit athletes from real students.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
1504 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 7:58 am to
The reason the game is broken is that the NCAA is no longer enforcing rules preventing the payment of recruits to sign and players to stay in school instead of entering the draft. So what we have is 8 or 10 schools that have monitized the game while the other 120+ schools still believe it's an amateur sport with rules against paying players. The results are obvious.

Either continue watching the decline of college football or grasp reality and go to an NFL-type of selection and retention process with a hard salary cap. Retain the rule against players going to the NFL before three years since high school graduation. Yes, it will be an NFL-light sport but we will have parity.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10223 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 8:38 am to
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College football

has been broken since they stopped making the NCAA Football video game. Kids don't get to know all the different programs anymore.

Really though, the only way CFB would be fixed is if the NFL ever starts a minor league. These high-end prospects only have a halfass commitment to their college programs and it gets worse every year. They understandably just want to get paid. And once they put together 5-6 good games in college, continuing to play more college games isn't worth the risk (purely from a financial perspective).

If those players are allowed to begin making money right out of HS, then CFB will get back to 4-year players who play simply for the experience that CFB is. The players would be more committed to the school, and the fans would be more committed to the program.

The problem with this is a mNFL is likely not financially viable. CFB could become a de facto mNFL by allowing full payment of players by schools. But that could open up unforeseen problems and result in a more broken system than we have now.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 9:41 am to
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College football is broken
maybe from your perspective and that writer's naive perspective. College football is a business. It's a highly successful business. Parity doesn't make more money. dynasties make money.
Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
2790 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 9:52 am to
99% of problems and evil in the football world come from the NFL. The NFL has had the same commissioner for a long time and every Saints fan knows he's the devil. Get the NFL some real leadership its contamination of College Football will diminish.
Posted by Wuhanflu
Member since Mar 2020
206 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 9:54 am to
Maybe the “one and done” racket, like in college basketball, will be the answer? Top HS and JUCO talent don’t have time to sit on Alabama’s and Clemson’s bench to play. Those kids will then go to other schools to make them more competitive.
Posted by TigerDentist
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2020
151 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 10:40 am to
Pay the players.

There, I fixed college football.
Posted by tigerbru17
Billy in 4C
Member since Jan 2009
9817 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 10:43 am to
Imagine recruiting caps based on star ratings. Each school is only allowed to sign two consensus 5 star players per recruiting cycle.

Or points instead of stars. You only get a certain number of recruiting points each year to fill your 25. These ranking services are getting more accurate every year. These schools win “top recruiting class” based on the rankings anyway. Why not cap it.
This post was edited on 12/30/20 at 10:46 am
Posted by FtHuntTiger
Lafayette, LA
Member since Oct 2011
677 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:22 am to
"The answer to all your questions is: Money" [quote from late TV sports producer Don Ohlmeyer]
Posted by Ramsey Dardar 1982
Member since Apr 2019
734 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 4:17 pm to
Want to “fix” it?

1) Admit it’s about football and academics are secondary;

2) Leave the useless, life sucking NCAA;

3) No minimum gpa or ACT scores for recruits;

4) No drug testing (not for narcotics, steroids, horse tranquilizers, nada!)

5) Worker’s Comp. coverage for players;

6) Players must play for 4 seasons;

7) Any coach caught violating the few rules that are left are banned for life;

8) Players retain 25% of funds generated from their name or likeness, school gets 75%:

9) 14 game regular season; and

10) 16 team playoff where strength of schedule is a major factor in selection.

Oh yeah, I’m case you for got, leave the NCAA!!!


GEAUX TIGERS!!!

Posted by NWLATigerFan12
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
11653 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 5:07 pm to
Crazy thought...probably a real dumb thought...but here goes nothing.

Allow schools to pay players, but have a hard cap. If they can sign 25 players per class, allow each school $10 million (or some amount that is the same for every single D1 FBS school) that they can use to pay those players in whatever way them deem fit. The catch...take away scholarships. Now that they're getting paid, players must pay their own way with tuition, room and board, etc like any regular student. Most schools wouldn't lose a ton of money because basically scholarship expenses become the salary cap. Salary of each player would be public and if boosters are ever caught adding a single dollar or a single "benefit" to a player or their family, drop the hammer on the program instantly. If that player wants more money, the program can give them more...at the expense of paying other guys less.

If the amount was $10 million and it was divided evenly, that would be $400,000 per player. $100,000 per year with a signed contract. That's more than enough to attend most D1 schools. If a player leaves after 3 years or "opts out", they must pay back that $100,000 or whatever the portion of the contract for that year was (should not be a problem at all if they are actually good enough to leave early and get drafted the top rounds. For players who redshirt along the way, give them the option to sign an additional 1 year/$100,000 contract.

This might make the NCAA more even across the board. Yes all these 5*s could go to Alabama or Clemson or Ohio State, but what if Georgia Tech offers one of the 5*s a million instead of $400,000? Yes that puts the rest of the players at a smaller amount, but Georgia Tech isn't going to pull a ton of big recruits anyways. Small schools could lure kids away with bigger offers. If better players want more money that's fine, they're just going to have to avoid going the same school as 10 other top players all wanting big money because there wouldn't be enough to go around.

This would stop so many kids from opting out or leaving early when they probably shouldn't, because they might actually have something to lose, especially if they were to leave early on bad advice and go undrafted.

Like I said at the beginning...this may be a completely awful idea. Schools would obviously try to abuse the system and come up with more booster money to pay kids with...NCAA would have to make serious examples out of the big names as soon as they're caught. It would probably end up being a broken system eventually, but hell...so is the current system.
Posted by tigers25
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2020
2158 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 5:19 pm to
I have yet to hear one argument why the following is a bad idea to increase parity in CFB:

No more signing 25 per year. You can sign 18.

No more max of 85 scholarship players per year. You can have 65.

Within 3-4 seasons, the parity in CFB would be incredible.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
4471 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 5:35 pm to
Much of this thread is a grotesque overreaction, as is the article that prompted it. CFB is not "broken." Every era of CFB has featured its own set of powerhouse programs that dominated championship opportunities. Florida State, Nebraska, and Florida in the 1990s. Miami, Penn State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma in the 1980s. Before that, Notre Dame. Alabama, Oklahoma, USC. Going all the way back to Minnesota in the late 30s and early 40s, and further back still to Yale in the 1880s. Nothing has changed, except for the fact that certain fans and commentators today want to portray the situation as a function of some broader structural or social inequity - the oh-so-fashionable view of the hour.
Posted by TDlurker
Member since Oct 2007
688 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 5:45 pm to
(1) Require a college degree for the NFL. 3yr salary/bonus caps for JUCO degrees.
(2) Reduce scholarship limits, require academic components for some, but broaden their terms (e.g.: 6yrs to play 4?).
(3) Eliminate transfer portal. Alternative: 1yr NFL salary/bonus cap for any transfer who didn't sit out.
(4) Limit conferences to 12 teams.
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24466 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 9:35 pm to
I tend to think allowing players to have their own image rights and endorsements could go a long way towards national parity.

5 star guys can spread out more around the country searching for the best endorsement deals in those markets. Do you go to Bama as the 6th 5* and get somewhat lost in the mix (to go with the rest of the stocked roster) or do you go to UW because Seattle is a larger market and wants success? I really think the math there would change a LOT of things.
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