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re: Of the first 34 picks in the 2020 NBA Draft.....

Posted on 12/28/20 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 12:40 pm to
Also our issues are clearly coming from backup bigs. Our backcourt has looked well the first few games without even NAW playing much. So why would it makes sense to throw Lewis in the mix? If we add any more people to the rotation it should be to help the bigs. If people follow our team they would see this shite instead of sit here and worry about our draft pick because past stats say so.

"we are 2-1, our guards are playing great and our bugs suck arse, we have to play the rookie PG now or all else is lost"
This post was edited on 12/28/20 at 12:44 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 12:57 pm to
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Also our issues are clearly coming from backup bigs. Our backcourt has looked well the first few games without even NAW playing much. So why would it makes sense to throw Lewis in the mix? If we add any more people to the rotation it should be to help the bigs. If people follow our team they would see this shite instead of sit here and worry about our draft pick because past stats say so.



I agree. I want to see more of Zion at the 5, with Hart/BI at the 4. But that would mean we would have to play more guards. Hayes and Melli have shown that they can't help spread the floor the same way Adams does when playing with Zion. I think this small ball 4/5 guy is who we should be targeting with for a trade, or who we should have been looking for with a 2nd round pick to try out.
We signed Magnay to a two way deal, and maybe it's time to see what he can do on our frontcourt, b/c Hayes and Melli don't look good at all.

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"we are 2-1, our guards are playing great and our bugs suck arse, we have to play the rookie PG now or all else is lost"



see, this is what you did in the other thread. You act like i'm acting like the sky is falling b/c he hasn't played yet. It is not at all what i said then, or now.

I"ll say it again for you. It would not surprise me if Kira doesn't get much run in the first 20 or so games, but i can't find any good reason why he wouldn't be playing some regular minutes by then unless he's simply not that good.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 1:01 pm to
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Our backcourt has looked well the first few games without even NAW playing much. So why would it makes sense to throw Lewis in the mix? f we add any more people to the rotation it should be to help the bigs. If people follow our team they would see this shite instead of sit here and worry about our draft pick because past stats say so.


Couple things:

1.) In the last two games Eric Bledsoe and JJ Reddick have combined for 19% shooting and 13.6% shooting from three. They have a combined net rating of around -30. Reddick’s -48 net rating over the last two games is only surpassed in its awfulness by Hayes -58 net rating

So I don’t think the rotation can be explained simply by saying our guards have played so good we don’t have any need for someone to come in to pick up the slack. My initial hunch is simply it’s a trust issue, as SVG seems to be a vet centric coach(for good and bad). Worst case scenario is that it is in fact performance related and both NAW and Kira are simply not looking good in practice/camp, which would be less of an issue for Kira but a concerning one for NAW who is already an older player with more college years, but had a full season.

2.) As I mentioned, Hayes has been downright terrible, which begs the question why then haven’t we seen Willy? In the other thread I suggested one rationale may be that it’s political, SVG might not want Hayes to start if this were the playoffs, but Griff and CO want their second year top ten pick to get minutes. The other explanation is again, that it might be performance related, Willy just ain’t good. To which it will be interesting to see what happens with Wenyen back. If he gets minutes immediately it’s pretty clear it is performance related and it would raise some larger questions about Hayes future if he can be easily unseated by a second year journeyman undrafted FA.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 1:15 pm to
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"we are 2-1, our guards are playing great and our bugs suck arse, we have to play the rookie PG now or all else is lost"
Bledsoe has been "good" in only 1 of 3 games so far, same with Redick. Ball has been "good" in 2 of 3. There's been some opportunity for NAW to play, and I think he will get some run soon. I don't know when/if Kira will get minutes, outside of garbage time.
Posted by bonethug0180
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Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:41 am to
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Also our issues are clearly coming from backup bigs. Our backcourt has looked well the first few games without even NAW playing much. So why would it makes sense to throw Lewis in the mix? If we add any more people to the rotation it should be to help the bigs. If people follow our team they would see this shite instead of sit here and worry about our draft pick because past stats say so.


They are intentionally ignoring our depth at guard and extreme lack of depth at the big positions.

Once SVG loosens up the rotation NAW will be the first to benefit, and then eventually Lewis. But until we break away from the 8 man rotation, you will continue to see our 7 best players (starters plus Hart and JJ) + whatever big they feel is the least worst. It's the bigs minutes that are lacking, not the guards/SF.
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 8:42 am
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