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re: Max Johnson isn't only good, he's the next Joe Burrow

Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by IS_IT_GAMEDAY
Member since Aug 2018
1664 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:28 pm to
And TJ is the next Jamarcus. Brennan is the next baby jesus. LSU STAAAACKED. NCAA FRICKED
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21309 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:28 pm to
Make it stop
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261682 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:30 pm to
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My only criticism of him is arm strength.


Same criticism of JB coming out of HS.

Max has the intangibles JB does. I don't know if he has that kind of ceiling, but he's showing the same moxie that Burrow showed in 2018.
Posted by LSUTIGAHS3501
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2020
82 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:33 pm to
What the hell are you smoking, Ole Miss was last in the NCAA in defense, Brandon Harris could of thrown for 1,000 against them
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2435 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:35 pm to
When given time, no empty backfield, he appears very much in control and poised in the pocket...he throws an easy ball to catch...a la Ken Stabler.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21309 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:37 pm to
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Brandon Harris could of thrown


Stop reading there
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14476 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

My only criticism of him is arm strength. He needs to hit the gym. He struggles to throw the ball across the field from the hash to the far sideline. As I said in a previous post I believe he is the only QB we have currently with the IT factor - finds ways to win.

His arm strength will improve and a QB that has timing and accuracy can make up for the lack of a cannon. Give him an actual offseason in the S&C program and he'll get more zip.

I was more impressed with his ability to navigate the pocket and handle pressure. He actually looked more comfortable than Brennan. I can't remember what one of the announcers said, something like "easy feet". That's hard to teach and more of an innate ability.

I don't think he's the next Burrow, but he looked really good as a true Fr. With the weapons we had last year and if he was a 5th year grad player, who knows how good he would be?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18157 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:42 pm to
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The jump that burrow made from 2018 to 2019 is one that I’ve never seen any QB make. Remains to be seen if Max can match that.
Burrow's "jump" was being taken out of E's pedestrian 2018 offense and put into Brady's 2019 offense.

Burrow's talent was already there. The improvement from 2018-19 was being put into the right scheme.
Posted by RichardT
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2005
1472 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:42 pm to
He doesn't need to be the next Joe Burrow or even try to be. He needs to be the best Max Johnson he can be. That'll do just fine.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15724 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:43 pm to
I knew MJ would be great when I saw videos of him practicing with guys in a field on campus earlier in the year. Let's pause on the Burrow comparisons for a minute though.
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:44 pm to
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I'm as big a Joe Burrow fan as anyone on this board, so I don't make this comparison lightly. He's a clone of Joey B.

He's a gym rat and a film study freak. Boutte said that he and Max ran routes all Summer, then after practice and days off in the Fall.

He pretty much knows what the D will be doing before the kickoff. And he gets rid of the ball lightening fast - that alone can account for the very few sacks he took.

I hope O listens to Max and his dad in the same way O listened to Joe and his dad as to the passing scheme for 2021 and beyond.

Max Jonson is the real deal.

Agreed on all counts.

Max Johnson is the GOAT!
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15724 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:45 pm to
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Brandon Harris could of thrown for 1,000 against them

Brandon Harris could be playing 7 on 7 and still get lost.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14590 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:45 pm to
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When given time

All of our QB's looked good to great when given time this year. There were WR's running wide open all over the field. The problem was that the Oline was dogshite, and LSU needed a mobile QB.
Posted by LSUDarkKnight2
Seattle
Member since Sep 2013
269 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:47 pm to
There isn’t a “next Joe Burrow”
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:47 pm to
Brad Johnson on 'arm strength'... "Arm strength is the most overrated part of football"

quote:

Brad Johnson, a ninth-round pick in 1992, led the Bucs to their first championship last January. He's considered a touch passer, and his counterpart in Super Bowl XXXVII, the Raiders' Rich Gannon, also relies more on guile than
a strong arm. There have been questions about Pennington's arm strength, although his brilliance at running the West Coast offense got the Jets to theplayoffs last season.

"Arm strength is the most overrated part of football," Johnson said. "The most important thing about a quarterback is knowing the system, understanding where everyone is, quickness with your feet, accuracy, and throwing a ball that's catchable. It's not throwing a ball real hard. Very rarely do you see a ball thrown over 40 yards."

Johnson also said the pass usually considered the best barometer of arm strength isn't used much. It's called the "deep out," where a receiver lines up wide, runs 15 to 20 yards upfield and cuts toward the sideline. Scouts place
such emphasis on the throw because NFL defensive backs are so much quicker than college players in breaking on the ball, creating a higher risk of interception.

"In this league, you can't name one team that throws 10 'outs' the whole year," Johnson said.
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8435 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:48 pm to
He does remind me of Joe with his pocket presence and ability to scramble for the first down. He made several very slick moves to avoid sacks the past 2 games. At risk of sounding cliche, he has "tremendous poise", something that TJ lacks.

Whether or not he will remind me of Joe in other ways remains to be seen. But what he did in the last 2 games as a true frosh is extremely impressive, regardless of context.
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
36531 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:48 pm to
I agree. I see Max as a winner all the way! He will be in the Heisman talks in 2 years!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261682 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

The improvement from 2018-19 was being put into the right scheme.



Working non stop with receivers was the biggest factor. Burrow was Doing great at the end of 2018. He just needed experience.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31160 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:49 pm to
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Burrow's "jump" was being taken out of E's pedestrian 2018 offense and put into Brady's 2019 offense.


Except his trajectory started in that A&M loss and then the UCF game resembled what he did all of 2019. Brady etc made a huge impact with the scheme but burrow and the players played a bigger role.
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:53 pm to
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