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Finished the season strong
Posted on 12/19/20 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 12/19/20 at 7:53 pm
Now time to finish cruitin' strong! 
Our final targets at LB, OL and WR should all see where they could step in and help in 2021.
Our final targets at LB, OL and WR should all see where they could step in and help in 2021.
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Posted on 12/19/20 at 7:56 pm to BayouCowboy
Would rather another corner over wide receiver
Posted on 12/19/20 at 8:00 pm to Broken Arrow
Not really because we need brian thomas jr.
You can always move nabers to corner
Boutte is really the only elite receiver
You can always move nabers to corner
Boutte is really the only elite receiver
Posted on 12/19/20 at 8:06 pm to Chalkywhite84
We sure did. Once max got the start we could play with anyone.
BTJ would look great on the field with boutte.
BTJ would look great on the field with boutte.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 8:13 pm to Broken Arrow
When you have Darren Evans out there in the 4th quarter of a close game...you need another corner
Posted on 12/19/20 at 8:33 pm to BayouCowboy
I think our needs are hs ol, transfer ol (help immediately), FS, WLB
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:11 pm to hall59tiger
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I think our needs are hs ol, transfer ol (help immediately), FS, WLB
We already have 3 safeties signed in this class. Sage may play some CB though.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:12 pm to BayouCowboy
I hope the last spots are just OL and Cornerback but more specifically Oline.
I'd be super happy if O somehow got Ingram and Deculus to come back but I'm not holding my breath.
I'd be super happy if O somehow got Ingram and Deculus to come back but I'm not holding my breath.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:21 pm to Chalkywhite84
Incredible that you have already determined that Boutte is the only elite receiver.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:23 pm to TheCaptain225
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Incredible that you have already determined that Boutte is the only elite receiver.
Who else would you consider elite?
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:35 pm to whitefoot
Did you miss the part where i said incredible that he has already determined that Boutte is the only elite receiver? Koy Moore, Trey Palmer, or Alex Adams? Just because Boutte has already proved he is elite does not mean the others will not be. Some players don't catch on as fast as others. I recall Jarvis Landry riding the pine his freshman year. Also, he worded it is as if the four receivers we have on board are all assumed to be less of players than Brian Thomas. Just incredible that you guys have such foresight. Need to put that to use on the lottery.
This post was edited on 12/19/20 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 12/19/20 at 10:11 pm to TheCaptain225
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Just incredible that you guys have such foresight
Settle down, buddy. I just asked you where you were coming from.
Seems like you're the one with the foresight projecting elite status on guys who might end up elite someday.
As it stands today, Boutte is the only elite guy we have. Do you really disagree with this?
I think Koy is solid, but I definitely haven't seen any glimmer of elite from him. Palmer has been here 2 years and has disappointed so far. Usually an elite player will show out as a sophomore. It's not like he didn't have an opportunity this year, but clearly Jenkins, Moore and Boutte are ahead of him on the depth chart. Last spring there were even rumors he might switch to defense because of his hands. I don't give up on guys, but I've got serious concerns he ever comes close to his recruiting rankings.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 10:37 pm to whitefoot
Im projecting elite status on guys by saying its incredible we are already determining who is elite and who is not after there freshman and sophomore seasons. Gotcha. Good thing the coaches didnt use the measuring sticks you guys do on player like Joe Burrow, Clyde Edwards-Helaire, or Patrick Queen. "Guys that didnt FLASH in their freshman or sophomore seasons."
Im really tired of explaining myself so ill try one more time. I know that Boutte is elite. But the initial comment we are discussing completely disregarded the other receivers we have currently and incoming because of a recruiting ranking that is beside Brian Thomas' name. I believe in development and maturity. Every player that comes will have their opportunity to prove they are elite. It may come when they are freshman (Boutte) or seniors (Burrow). My point is just because it doesn't happen instantly doesn't mean it wont. So stop with the comments that insinuate we should find replacements for players that did not FLASH as freshman.
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Seems like you're the one with the foresight projecting elite status on guys who might end up elite someday. As it stands today, Boutte is the only elite guy we have. Do you really disagree with this?
Im really tired of explaining myself so ill try one more time. I know that Boutte is elite. But the initial comment we are discussing completely disregarded the other receivers we have currently and incoming because of a recruiting ranking that is beside Brian Thomas' name. I believe in development and maturity. Every player that comes will have their opportunity to prove they are elite. It may come when they are freshman (Boutte) or seniors (Burrow). My point is just because it doesn't happen instantly doesn't mean it wont. So stop with the comments that insinuate we should find replacements for players that did not FLASH as freshman.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 10:41 pm to whitefoot
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Who else would you consider elite?
Palmer’s speed gives him elite potential if he can get his hands on track.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 10:42 pm to misey94
Jugs. Please just do whatever Brady did in the offseason!
Posted on 12/19/20 at 10:55 pm to whitefoot
Chase, Odell Beckham, Jefferson, and Landry some of our best most recent WRs didn’t show real elite status until their junior years (except for Chase). Most were just solid their sophomore years. It isn’t just the WR but the QB needs to have a trust for that WR for him to even get a ball thrown to him.
I saw WRs running open all night tonight but Johnson happen to see Boutte because they have been working together on their own time. Imo it’s up to both the WRs and QBs to work with each other on their own time so they both trust each other. If they all do this their skills will show more.
Koy Moore may not be elite just yet but I’ve seen him show elite flashes and contest balls in the air when he’s got his chance. Racey McMath was showing his skills early in the season, as was Jenkins. While these guys may not be elite, they’re solid WRs that can move the ball down the field, which is the point.
Just because we don’t have 5 Chase type WRs doesn’t mean we are hurting for talent and the pressure is on to recruit WRs (which we’re doing at a high level anyway). I’m just making a general statement to anyone. We have plenty of SEC level WRs. We could use more to step up but I don’t think we’re hurting for WRs or need WRs more than other positions, which was the point of the whole argument.
This season wasn’t a typical season with a long offseason to train with each other and let the coaches do their jobs. Hopefully that changes this off-season and we have 2 or 3 more show out. Even Marshall was having issues getting open at the start of the year. I just hope football and life altogether gets back on track in 2021!
I saw WRs running open all night tonight but Johnson happen to see Boutte because they have been working together on their own time. Imo it’s up to both the WRs and QBs to work with each other on their own time so they both trust each other. If they all do this their skills will show more.
Koy Moore may not be elite just yet but I’ve seen him show elite flashes and contest balls in the air when he’s got his chance. Racey McMath was showing his skills early in the season, as was Jenkins. While these guys may not be elite, they’re solid WRs that can move the ball down the field, which is the point.
Just because we don’t have 5 Chase type WRs doesn’t mean we are hurting for talent and the pressure is on to recruit WRs (which we’re doing at a high level anyway). I’m just making a general statement to anyone. We have plenty of SEC level WRs. We could use more to step up but I don’t think we’re hurting for WRs or need WRs more than other positions, which was the point of the whole argument.
This season wasn’t a typical season with a long offseason to train with each other and let the coaches do their jobs. Hopefully that changes this off-season and we have 2 or 3 more show out. Even Marshall was having issues getting open at the start of the year. I just hope football and life altogether gets back on track in 2021!
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:22 pm to TheCaptain225
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Im really tired of explaining myself
You're way too worked up about this. Who's giving up on anyone? Right now, today, we have one elite receiver in the program. Hopefully others get there. Only time will tell.
But examine the numbers.
For the 2021 class, we only have 2 guys who are definitely going to be receivers.
In 2020 we took three guys and one of them i haven't seen since the first game (Adams).
2019 we only have Palmer, since Lee got moved to defense and now tight end. I'm not giving up on Palmer yet, but his hands are really a problem. I mean, he's not even returning punts anymore. Why is that?
2018 we only have Jenkins left.
That's simply not enough guys. Now, is there a corner prospect out there that's better than Nabors? If so I might change my opinion on taking BTJ. But I haven't heard of any other corners on the radar except Balfour. And I really don't know much about him, so I'm skeptical he's better than Nabors.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:50 pm to misey94
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Palmer’s speed gives him elite potential if he can get his hands on track.
Route running is a little shoddy as well
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:50 pm to whitefoot
I believe what you are doing in logic is known as a straw-man fallacy. Not once did I argue we should take another corner over wideout. My initial post is completely wrapped around the idea of determining who is elite and who is not after their first couple of years in college. And the post I initially responded to acted as if Brain Thomas is a sure thing because of a little ranking next to his name. Which is the exact reason why people on this board continue to have complete meltdowns every single recruiting cycle. The bottom line is we don't know and to insinuate that a kid does not have the skills to be elite from your sofa just ticks me off.
This post was edited on 12/19/20 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 12/20/20 at 12:38 am to TheCaptain225
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believe what you are doing in logic is known as a straw-man fallacy. Not once did I argue we should take another corner over wideout
Good Lord, man. The person chalky was replying to said he'd rather a CB than another wide out. That's how this whole dumb argument for started.
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The bottom line is we don't know and to insinuate that a kid does not have the skills to be elite from your sofa just ticks me off.
Take it easy, buddy. Get off your high horse. Nobody's bashing anyone here. And no shite nobody knows. I'm saying we could use another wide receiver in this class and right now Boutte is the only one we have that's elite.
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