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8-4 in a ‘normal’ season

Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:06 am
Posted by SBC
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:06 am
With the win over Uf and a win over Ole Miss we would be looking at an apples to apples season of 8-4 assuming the 3 gimme games. That’s what the is year is. Nothing more, nothing less.
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 11:07 am
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:06 am to
5 losses means we would be 7-5 at best in the regular season Champ
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 11:07 am
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29489 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:07 am to
quote:

With the win over Uf and a win over Ole Miss we would be looking at an apples to apples season of 8-4 assuming the 3 gimme games.
WTF - how quickly we forget losing to MSU giving up the most passing yards in the HISTORY OF THE SEC and MO. Jesus
Posted by purpgoldblood
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Member since Oct 2005
1240 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:08 am to
Should have beaten mizzou and state
W Max we likely beat A&M
Auburn and Bama were going to be blowouts
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28111 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:09 am to
I actually think 7-5

Take away Mizzou loss
Take away Vandy win
Add Texas Loss
Add 3 creampuff wins

But your point remains... in a normal season this wouldn’t have looked as disastrous as it has...none of us would have been happy with 7-5 or 8-4, but it wouldn’t have felt as much like a dumpster fire as it has

And this is debatable, but I don’t think we would have lost to MissSt had it not been the first game out the gate. So if that outcome flips it actually does get us to 8-4
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 11:12 am
Posted by CheerWhine
A little bit of Mardi Gras
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:10 am to
You'd take out Mizzou and Vandy in a normal season, so we're 4-4, assuming an Ole Miss win. Add in the usual non-conference games, and 8-4 or 7-5 sounds about right.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33788 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:12 am to
quote:

You'd take out Mizzou and Vandy in a normal season, so we're 4-4, assuming an Ole Miss win. Add in the usual non-conference games, and 8-4 or 7-5 sounds about right.


While no one would be happy with this, if this were a normal season and Myles was lost for the year, I don't think 7-5/8-4 would be horrible after all the lost players from last year.
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6886 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:16 am to
You guys can’t read or are just ignorant.

Original schedule normal season and we would be 8-4 or worse case 7-5 if we had lost to Texas.

Wins - South Carolina, Arkansas, UF, Ole Miss, Rice, UT San Antonio, Texas, Nichols St

Losses - Alabama, Miss St, Auburn, A&M
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6886 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:17 am to
This is my point. Let’s be fair on what the ‘season’ really is.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28111 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:20 am to
Oh I totally agree

7-5 or 8-4 would have felt like a “normal” step back down season after the player losses

At 7-5 or 8-4 none of us would have ever entered “burn it all down” mode like we have at points this year

Damn Covid
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 11:24 am
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38782 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Wins - South Carolina, Arkansas, UF, Ole Miss, Rice, UT San Antonio, Texas, Nichols St
Texas would be far from a sure win given how we played to start the season. They would have shredded us
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55388 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:23 am to
We gave up nearly 650 yards again last night.

This is, at best, a 6-6 team with this defense.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
52889 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:25 am to
quote:

And this is debatable, but I don’t think we would have lost to MissSt had it not been the first game out the gate. So if that outcome flips it actually does get us to 8-4

I don't think nearly as many players opt out in a normal year either. I still think we need some major staff adjustments though
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 11:26 am
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28111 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:26 am to
Look at the ACTUAL original pre-Covid schedule compared to the ACTUAL on-field results from this season.

That’s his point, and The OP is correct. With a win over Ole Miss, the record would have been 7-5 or 8-4
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 11:28 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60664 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:27 am to
quote:

5 losses means we would be 7-5 at best Champ


that's possible but we would not have played 10 SEC games and one of the extra games was Missiouri. There's no way to know of course but does the Miss State game go the same way if we played them in the middle of the year vs week 1?

I thought after last year with all we lost and the schedule, particularly with Florida A&M and Auburn on the road and Bama that 9-3 was the ceiling, 8-4/7-5 very likely.
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 11:28 am
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28111 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:29 am to
quote:

5 losses means we would be 7-5 at best in the regular season Champ


Mizzou was not on original schedule
Neither was Vandy
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 11:30 am
Posted by Mathias5k
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2018
1870 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:29 am to
How different is everything if we win even one of miss st or mizzou
Posted by sportjunkie69
Member since Nov 2012
2234 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:29 am to
I will never accept that LSU loses that game to AtM with Myles Brennen at QB. With Brennan playing that game could have been over by half time. I wouldn't even discount beating Auburn with Brennan at QB.

Now Miss St. and Mizz are all on the defense and a hurting Brennan at the end.

But I suspect if we had kept Aranda for this year, we are rolling into Ole Miss at a possible 8-1 with a loss to Bama certainly not likely as bad as it was.

I know, these are a lot of ifs. But just a healthy Brennan and we're looking at a very possible 7-3 season and possibly a Major Bowl game.
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 11:33 am
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Texas would be far from a sure win given how we played to start the season. They would have shredded us



Texas wasn’t playing very well early in the season either and with a healthy Brennan it would have been a shootout so it’s a 50/50 game in my opinion.

Also in a normal year Chase is on the field in that game.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33788 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:33 am to
LSU was at more of a disadvantage this year than most. On top of all the lost players, a new defensive scheme with no spring or offseason.

If we played our regular schedule, you would've seen no players quit. We may have lost to Texas, but we wouldn't have lost to State or Missouri.

I think 8-4/7-5 would've been likely. Again, not acceptable, but understandable.
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