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300 Winchester vs 7mm. Best single rifle for hunting in North America
Posted on 12/11/20 at 9:20 am
Posted on 12/11/20 at 9:20 am
OK, I just went a little crazy buying some weapons. For home defense I got my wife an ar15 pistol. Decked it out with a red dot and tactical light and she is loving it. Till we lost all of them in a boating accident.
Anyway, I can't go and buy a ton more rifles at this point but what I don't have is a real deer whatever rifle than can reach out and touch someone.
It seems as though the 300 is a slightly more versatile round. But the 7mm rifles are lighter and have less kick.
If you could get a single rifle to use what would it be. One of those two or something different?
And take ammo supply into account. While everything is tight these days, certain round are always ready to find whereas others are more difficult to find.
Anyway, I can't go and buy a ton more rifles at this point but what I don't have is a real deer whatever rifle than can reach out and touch someone.
It seems as though the 300 is a slightly more versatile round. But the 7mm rifles are lighter and have less kick.
If you could get a single rifle to use what would it be. One of those two or something different?
And take ammo supply into account. While everything is tight these days, certain round are always ready to find whereas others are more difficult to find.
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 9:25 am to thetempleowl
Choosing between those two?
300 Win Mag for me.
I hunted with a 7mm Mag for a decade, It will do everything you'll likely ever need. The 300 Win Mag is more gun though with a better ballistic coefficient, if I remember correctly.
A suppressor will knock off some of that recoil if that is a concern. I have a Weatherby 300 Win Mag w/ a Break and I have a 300 Win Mag Suppressor.
300 Win Mag for me.
I hunted with a 7mm Mag for a decade, It will do everything you'll likely ever need. The 300 Win Mag is more gun though with a better ballistic coefficient, if I remember correctly.
A suppressor will knock off some of that recoil if that is a concern. I have a Weatherby 300 Win Mag w/ a Break and I have a 300 Win Mag Suppressor.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 9:33 am to thetempleowl
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Best single rifle for hunting in North America
Doesnt equal
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a real deer whatever rifle than can reach out and touch someone.
The best all around north American hunting caliber is pretty universally agreed to be .338 win mag. If buffalo and big bears are off the list the .300 becomes a great option. I doubt very many people would argue for 7 mag, most would argue its a little bit light for elk.
For your second comment (long range deer only), either is fine. Either will sling bullets out as far as you can see and kill deer as far as you can hit them.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 9:38 am to thetempleowl
Between those two? 300 Win. Mag. It can carry a bigger payload. The heaviest 7mm Rem. Mag. bullets are 175 gr. (I think).
If I was shopping around it would be between a 338 Win. Mag and a 300 Win. Mag.
Hell, throw a 375 H&H in there for fun. I was looking for something like you are one time and figured my distance max for ethically killing is probably 300 yards and that's only with practice. A 375 H&H will carry a big bullet that far and lay a whack on an elk or moose at that distance. So when a Weatherby Mark V Sporter popped up in that caliber, I pulled the trigger to scratch my magnum itch.
If I was shopping around it would be between a 338 Win. Mag and a 300 Win. Mag.
Hell, throw a 375 H&H in there for fun. I was looking for something like you are one time and figured my distance max for ethically killing is probably 300 yards and that's only with practice. A 375 H&H will carry a big bullet that far and lay a whack on an elk or moose at that distance. So when a Weatherby Mark V Sporter popped up in that caliber, I pulled the trigger to scratch my magnum itch.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 9:47 am to thetempleowl
the seven mag
had both
had both
Posted on 12/11/20 at 9:54 am to thetempleowl
If you are just hunting deer I’d go with a 270 or 308. 300 Mag isn’t needed.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 9:56 am to DownSouthJukin
You havea 375? I've got some ammo and brass and dies id like to sell for cheap. I'll have another one one day, but not any time soon.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:00 am to thetempleowl
If I had to pick one for all of North America?
30-06
30-06
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:01 am to DownSouthJukin
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The heaviest 7mm Rem. Mag. bullets are 175 gr. (I think).
There is a Berger EOL 195gr in .284
extremely close to Berger's EOL 245gr .30
If you are hunting Elk, flip a coin between these two (imho).
If you are throwing moose and bear into the mix, look for something a little bigger.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:07 am to down time
I don’t know if all brands of synthetic stocks help with recoil but Browning synthetic stocks seem to help.I had a Remington .270 with a wood stock and it kicked the crap out of me,I got a .270 Browning A-bolt with synthetic stock and I don’t notice any kick,I’ve sat down with it and shot 20 rounds through it and didn’t hurt at all.I later bought same rifle in 7 mag and it kicks a little but doesn’t hurt at all,not nearly as bad as the wood stocked .270.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:09 am to LSUA 75
The shape of the stock matters alot. Some Synthetic stocks do flex under recoil and that helps as well.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:09 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I've got some ammo
I don't reload, so just interested in the ammo. Whatcha got? I screwed up and didn't buy ammo months/years ago when I bought the rifle and when inexpensive foreign ammo was being imported.
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 10:10 am
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:09 am to thetempleowl
Deer rifle only?
- 257 WBY, 6.5 x 300 WBY, 28 Nosler
6.5 PRC, .308 WIN, 7mm-08, .30-06, 280 AI
If you need to reach out and touch for deer, you can’t do better than the 257 WBY. Mild recoil for a magnum, flat shooting, and devastating on impact.
- 257 WBY, 6.5 x 300 WBY, 28 Nosler
6.5 PRC, .308 WIN, 7mm-08, .30-06, 280 AI
If you need to reach out and touch for deer, you can’t do better than the 257 WBY. Mild recoil for a magnum, flat shooting, and devastating on impact.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:10 am to DownSouthJukin
Mixed bag. Enough to kill whatever you want. Some 300gr stuff, some 270 gr stuff, some FMJ burner ammo. Send me and email and I'll go count it all later
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<- @ gmail
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:12 am to NimbleCat
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with a better ballistic coefficient, if I remember correctly.
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If you’re interested in the averages, the 7mm Rem Mag has an average BC of .56 while the .300 Win Mag has an average BC of .553. Though there is a slight difference in the averages, we don’t think it is a fair way to decide which of the cartridges have the better ballistic coefficients. If you need a round that’s going to resist wind deflection and drag, both the 7mm RM and the .300 WM have options to get the job done.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:13 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Sent. Thanks!
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:14 am to bbvdd
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There is a Berger EOL 195gr in .284
I didn't know that. I love a 7mm (I have two .280's).
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:21 am to DownSouthJukin
Its got to be pretty slow I would think.
Its really hard to talk about an ideal long range deer caliber, because basically anything 6.5 and up will kill them reliably out as far as you can reach, and most people are not set up / practiced to shoot past 200 yards anyway.
If I were going buy a rifle that I was bent on making a 500yd+ deer rifle, caliber wouldn't be much of a consideration for me. I'd probably make it a .30-06 because I already have the stuff to load for it. Probably would get a 7 mag if I wanted it to be a 1000 yard rifle.
Its really hard to talk about an ideal long range deer caliber, because basically anything 6.5 and up will kill them reliably out as far as you can reach, and most people are not set up / practiced to shoot past 200 yards anyway.
If I were going buy a rifle that I was bent on making a 500yd+ deer rifle, caliber wouldn't be much of a consideration for me. I'd probably make it a .30-06 because I already have the stuff to load for it. Probably would get a 7 mag if I wanted it to be a 1000 yard rifle.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:40 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Probably would get a 7 mag if I wanted it to be a 1000 yard rifle.
For 1000yd deer rifle, I'd look at a 6.5prc. 156gr out that round is a very good combo.
the 6.5 prc is just a 6.5-284. The reason for it is that there are several different sized reamers for the cartridge and they are not compatible.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:57 am to thetempleowl
No idea on 7 mag but I have the Browning X Bolt .300 win mag and it’s a pretty legit rifle compared to its predecessors. The recoil is 10Xs lighter and the gun is 2 lbs lighter than the A Bolt.
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