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Aranda was the glue
Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:37 am
Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:37 am
I'm not saying Aranda was perfect, or didn't have some bad games. Mullen usually had his number for example.
HOWEVER
Aranda was there from day one when CEO took over. In 2016, 2017, 2018. LSU fielded competent teams that mostly handled business, and beat the teams they should beat. They weren't elite, but they were solid and not a total dumpster fire like this year. Even before Brady, and Burrow. The main variable that is missing from all those consistent years is Aranda.
Aranda's Asst Headcoach title probably meant more than we all realize. Coach O looks quite foolish throwing shade at the man, who very well was the reason we didn't implode from day one.
I remember Aranda making LBs we believed to be average like Duke Riley, absolutely ball out. Now we have Damone Clark who played a crap ton of football making DJ Welter look like an all american.
I think Aranda was basically running the show. Then Brady and Burrow came along not even Coach O could screw that up.
HOWEVER
Aranda was there from day one when CEO took over. In 2016, 2017, 2018. LSU fielded competent teams that mostly handled business, and beat the teams they should beat. They weren't elite, but they were solid and not a total dumpster fire like this year. Even before Brady, and Burrow. The main variable that is missing from all those consistent years is Aranda.
Aranda's Asst Headcoach title probably meant more than we all realize. Coach O looks quite foolish throwing shade at the man, who very well was the reason we didn't implode from day one.
I remember Aranda making LBs we believed to be average like Duke Riley, absolutely ball out. Now we have Damone Clark who played a crap ton of football making DJ Welter look like an all american.
I think Aranda was basically running the show. Then Brady and Burrow came along not even Coach O could screw that up.
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:39 am to LSURep864
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Aranda was there from day one when CEO took over. In 2016, 2017, 2018.
So you are saying he lost to Troy.
Joe Burrow didn’t lose to Troy. If you are looking for glue, it’s Joe.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:39 am to LSURep864
O definitely showed his colors talking bad about this defense and him
Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:40 am to LSURep864
I think he was the adult in the room on defense and his cerebral nature rubbed off on the entire team.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:40 am to lsu711
Forest trees.
In 2017 we lost to Troy, and got boat raced by MSU. Then rallied back to beat UF on the road and Auburn at home. Played Bama semi close. Then we didn't pack it in after losing to Bama like we always used to.
The difference in 2017 and 2020 is the wheels didn't fall off like they did this year. Aranda is major reason why.
In 2017 we lost to Troy, and got boat raced by MSU. Then rallied back to beat UF on the road and Auburn at home. Played Bama semi close. Then we didn't pack it in after losing to Bama like we always used to.
The difference in 2017 and 2020 is the wheels didn't fall off like they did this year. Aranda is major reason why.
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 7:43 am
Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:42 am to LSURep864
You, my friend, are spot on
Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:42 am to CatfishJohn
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I think he was the adult in the room on defense and his cerebral nature rubbed off on the entire team.
Yep, which prevented the wheels from completely coming off during adversity.
Whereas now the players just hear shrimp boat captain yelling, along with Bo.
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 7:44 am
Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:46 am to LSURep864
Aranda did great things here and what he did with the LB group was nothing short of amazing; however, the idea that he was somehow holding this team together is utter nonsense.
Connecting with the players and organizing the defensive staff were Dave's biggest weaknesses. This info comes from someone inside the building who is now at another job (not an O sycophant). Also Aranda's departure wasn't as messy as some on this board make it out to be. Both knew it was time to move on but there are no hard feelings.
Connecting with the players and organizing the defensive staff were Dave's biggest weaknesses. This info comes from someone inside the building who is now at another job (not an O sycophant). Also Aranda's departure wasn't as messy as some on this board make it out to be. Both knew it was time to move on but there are no hard feelings.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:52 am to LSURep864
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In 2017 we lost to Troy, and got boat raced by MSU. Then rallied back to beat UF on the road
Florida went 4-7 that year.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:56 am to skullhawk
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Also Aranda's departure wasn't as messy as some on this board make it out to be. Both knew it was time to move on but there are no hard feelings.
From the outside looking in, no hard feelings from the Aranda side of things, however, O has has had hard feelings from the day Aranda left. Motherfricker tries to throw our GOAT modern DC under the bus every chance he gets. It is obsessive and retarded.
And I believe the OP does have a fantastic point. It seems like O's desire to get rid of any memory of Aranda is down to insecurities. He knows that Aranda is 500 times the coach that he is.
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Connecting with the players and organizing the defensive staff were Dave's biggest weaknesses
Tbh your friend from inside the program's words don't line up with actual performance on the field and what players say about him after they leave so I don't believe your friend based on actual on field coaching evidence.
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 8:01 am
Posted on 12/7/20 at 8:01 am to lsu711
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If you are looking for glue, it’s Joe.
Joe wasn't even here during the Troy game so your whole analogy is a bit ridiculous. ETA: also Aranda hired Busch who recommended Burrow so I am not sure Burrow even goes to LSU without Aranda sticking around.
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 8:06 am
Posted on 12/7/20 at 8:08 am to Tiger Tracker
Dave, O, but no Joe. Lose to Troy and Miss St (that was 37-7 btw)
Dave, O with Joe. Win a NY6 and a CFP
O, but no Dave or Joe. Go 3-7.
Things got worse without Dave, but Joe made everyone look good.
Dave, O with Joe. Win a NY6 and a CFP
O, but no Dave or Joe. Go 3-7.
Things got worse without Dave, but Joe made everyone look good.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 8:08 am to LSURep864
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Aranda was the glue
Yes, and Abe Lincoln died of a heart attack.
The problem with LSU is as obvious as Abe's cause of death, but for some reason, fans can't help looking for other reasons.
We lost:
- 13 players in the draft - the most IN HISTORY!
- 3 more, including the top non-QB in the nation, opted out.
- Our only experienced QB
Plus, the 2018 class, which is the class in the driver's seat this year, sucked!
There are no other reasons. Maybe Bo is a crummy coach. Maybe Lincoln had a heart attack. In either case, how would we know?
Posted on 12/7/20 at 8:12 am to lsu711
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Things got worse without Dave, but Joe made everyone look good.
You are missing the entire point. Before Joe, LSU was not a complete dumpster fire with Coach O. We had some ups and downs. However we looked decent most weeks, and after the Troy debacle we did a complete 180. We were a 9 win football team with no Joe, and Aranda.
This year we are a complete dumpster fire, absolute trash, awful team. With Joe, and Brady yes we went from from above average to elite. That's not the point I'm making, and it's what you keep missing.
We were a solid team week to week with Aranda. Not elite but solid. Remove Aranda and we go from Solid to absolute shite show.
There is a chasm between our 9 win 2017 team that lost to Troy(11-2) and MSU(9-4) and still almost won 10 games. And this shite show of a team that will finish with 3 wins. 2 over Vandy and SC.
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 8:18 am
Posted on 12/7/20 at 8:12 am to lsu711
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So you are saying he lost to Troy.
Yeah Aranda threw 2 INTs and fumbled twice during the Troy game.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 8:15 am to Tiger Tracker
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ETA: also Aranda hired Busch who recommended Burrow so I am not sure Burrow even goes to LSU without Aranda sticking around.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 8:16 am to Penrod
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Penrod
Its funny watching you spin everything on this board into ‘its not o’s fault.’
The lincoln analogy is a new one, way to keep the spins fresh.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 8:16 am to geauxdroddz
Aranda was the calm on defense when things got crazy
Aranda will not be a good head coach though
Aranda will not be a good head coach though
Posted on 12/7/20 at 8:19 am to LSURep864
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Aranda was the glue
Hell no. Joe Burrow was the glue; the heart and soul; the primary motivator and leader of a committed group of players with one fricking goal.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 8:21 am to JohnnyU
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Hell no. Joe Burrow was the glue; the heart and soul; the primary motivator and leader of a committed group of players with one fricking goal.
You are daft. Joe Burrow wasn't here in 2016 and 2017. LSU was not a dumpster fire those years. They were above average.
The point isn't that Aranda leaving made us go from 15-0 to 3-7. Its that Aranda leaving made us go from 9-4 or 8-5 to 3-7.
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