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re: COVID & Masks in 12 Graphs

Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:13 pm to
Look. Masks can help, and anyone with a lick of common sense and logic can deduce that. The reality is that people cannot assume a mask is 1) perfect and 2) that people are going to use them right (idiots only covering their mouth and not their nose).

In the end, it leads to people relaxing too much and so seems like it is ineffective. Reality is that it likely extended the lulls on those curves, albeit they eventually spike up.

People bitching about the mandates I get. I shouldn't be forced to wear one, but you SHOULD wear one out of respect when it is reasonable and possible to do so.
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1339 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:21 pm to
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I shouldn't be forced to wear one, but you SHOULD wear one out of respect when it is reasonable and possible to do so.




Keep on giving up that inch...
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54231 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:25 pm to
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but you SHOULD wear one out of respect when it is reasonable and possible to do so.


Who determines what is reasonable and shouldn't you also respect the wishes of those who think masks are not effective so in turn they don't wear one? If restaurant A has a no mask policy and you want to go eat there and wear a mask, expect for eating purposes, are you saying those unmasked people SHOULD wear one out of respect to you and Dr. Fauci?
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65406 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:28 pm to
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People bitching about the mandates I get. I shouldn't be forced to wear one, but you SHOULD wear one out of respect when it is reasonable and possible to do so.



"Respect"

"Reasonable"

Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51826 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:39 pm to
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Look. Masks can help, and anyone with a lick of common sense and logic can deduce that.


Yes, by filtering out a whopping THREE PERCENT of particles! (study of healthcare workers in 1,600 hospitals)

Wearing a mask is like pissing on a raging forest fire then saying you "helped".

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Reality is that it likely extended the lulls on those curves, albeit they eventually spike up.


No, the reality is that masks created a security blanket effect. People felt less the need to social distance as long as they had their all-powerful mask on.

Social distancing is the better preventative, but even that is only a delaying tactic. With the R0 of this thing, everyone is going to end up getting it. Every. One. Thinking that it's going to simply give up, take its ball and go home because it has less patience than we do is a complete and utter denial of reality.

The only real preventative is to get it, go through it and then enjoy the immunity afterward. THIS is why we need a vaccine, anything else is just another delaying tactic.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18076 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:52 pm to
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Look. Masks can help, and anyone with a lick of common sense and logic can deduce that.


Masks are not as effective as covering your mouth/nose when you sneeze or cough. They are a step backwards because when you sneeze or cough into a mask, the mask holds those liquids and then your breathing vaporizes them into the air.

If you cough or sneeze into the sleeve of your shirt, they stay there and don't get heated/blown into the air. Kleenex is also superior to a mask.

Masks also collect germ filled droplets from the air. As they collect on the mask, the viral load someone gets while breathing increases as they collect more and more.

Masks (disposable medical and cloth) cannot prevent viral transmission. You can't change the laws of physics.
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