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re: Should I move my 401k money to the cash option ahead of the election?
Posted on 10/27/20 at 1:37 pm to Rex Feral
Posted on 10/27/20 at 1:37 pm to Rex Feral
It sounds like you have it all figured out. I am not saying that scenario will not play out in your favor, but if it does it will be pure luck.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 2:45 pm to geauxpurple
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I am not saying that scenario will not play out in your favor, but if it does it will be pure luck.
Which is exactly the problem.
There are two scenarios that could play out. The first, and most likely, is that he times the market and fails, missing out on gains. The second is that he times the market and wins because of dumb luck. But instead of realizing it's dumb luck, he thinks he's good at timing the market, and probably tries to do it again, in which case, he'll finally end up back at scenario 1.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 7:18 am to geauxpurple
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It sounds like you have it all figured out. I am not saying that scenario will not play out in your favor, but if it does it will be pure luck.
Pure luck is strong. If OP happens to be of sane mind when most people aren’t and happens to notice how horrible the underlying fundamentals of both the economy and the market are, and then decides to raise cash in his portfolio because the risk/reward of equities is no longer acceptable, that would be a very reasonable stance as far as I’m concerned. Timing the exit and re-entry will of course be difficult, but long term expected equity market returns are publicly available from some of the largest investment firms in the world.
GMO, for instance, whose work is stellar, is now forecasting a negative 5.8% annual real return for large cap US stocks over the next 7 years. Couldn’t OP just find somebody whose advice he trusts, like GMO, and wait to buy back in when that long term forecast compensates him more fairly than does a potential negative return in the face of an arguable bubble in risk assets?
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Timing the market is notoriously hard. Most people will get their arse handed to them. But for a 56yo retiring in 10 years to temporarily move his portfolio into cash upon recognizing stocks feel detached from reality is not some crazy notion deserving of all the condescension he’s received in this thread. Especially if it helps him sleep at night, which counts for something.
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