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Those of u who carry: Good info I received from my 2A attorney, approaching the election
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:24 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:24 am
The moments after you have used your gun or other legal weapon are critical. If you do or say the incorrect thing, it may mean the difference between keeping your legal rights and waiving them.
Immediately following a self-defensive shooting:
1. Make sure the threat has been controlled and you are safe.
2. Do not disturb the scene.
3. Call 911.
The only information the 911 dispatcher needs to know is:
- What assistance is needed;
- Your name and the location of the emergency;
- What you look like/are wearing; and
- That you have been the victim of a crime.
Do not make any statements to the dispatcher about what happened (e.g., “I’ve just shot an intruder”).
You do not have to stay on the line with the 911 dispatcher (they’ll ask you to do so).
4. Call your attorney.
5. Comply with all police commands.
- Police do not know who the good guys and bad guys are when they arrive. Comply in a nonthreatening manner with your hands clearly visible and your weapon secure.
- Inform police you have been the victim of a crime.
6. Invoke your legal rights.
In an emergency situation, simply say these words to any law enforcement officer: ”I do not consent to any searches. I am invoking my right to remain silent and my right to an attorney.”
- Make no statement to anyone about the incident.
- Wait to talk to your attorney.
- If asked to accompany law enforcement, comply but make no statements.
- Do not make jokes or cute remarks.
- Do not say anything, even if you believe you have done nothing wrong.
Everyone be safe, and protect yourself and your loved ones.
Immediately following a self-defensive shooting:
1. Make sure the threat has been controlled and you are safe.
2. Do not disturb the scene.
3. Call 911.
The only information the 911 dispatcher needs to know is:
- What assistance is needed;
- Your name and the location of the emergency;
- What you look like/are wearing; and
- That you have been the victim of a crime.
Do not make any statements to the dispatcher about what happened (e.g., “I’ve just shot an intruder”).
You do not have to stay on the line with the 911 dispatcher (they’ll ask you to do so).
4. Call your attorney.
5. Comply with all police commands.
- Police do not know who the good guys and bad guys are when they arrive. Comply in a nonthreatening manner with your hands clearly visible and your weapon secure.
- Inform police you have been the victim of a crime.
6. Invoke your legal rights.
In an emergency situation, simply say these words to any law enforcement officer: ”I do not consent to any searches. I am invoking my right to remain silent and my right to an attorney.”
- Make no statement to anyone about the incident.
- Wait to talk to your attorney.
- If asked to accompany law enforcement, comply but make no statements.
- Do not make jokes or cute remarks.
- Do not say anything, even if you believe you have done nothing wrong.
Everyone be safe, and protect yourself and your loved ones.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:31 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:27 am to EKG
quote:Do many of y'all really have an attorney? And, I mean one that actually practices criminal defense?
4. Call your attorney.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:28 am to EKG
Anybody who wants to take your lawful gun..shoot them.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:29 am to AlxTgr
I pay for a monthly 2A legal service.
The attorneys are out of Texas, but they represent all states.
They’re available 24/7, 365
If anyone’s interested in looking into their services, I’m happy to share their info.
The attorneys are out of Texas, but they represent all states.
They’re available 24/7, 365
If anyone’s interested in looking into their services, I’m happy to share their info.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:30 am to AlxTgr
quote:
Do many of y'all really have an attorney? And, I mean one that actually practices criminal defense?
I don't
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:31 am to AlxTgr
I love it when people say that. What normal people have a stable of attorneys on retainer?
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:32 am to EKG
quote:
3. Call 911.
The only information the 911 dispatcher needs to know is:
- What assistance is needed;
- Your name and the location of the emergency;
- What you look like/are wearing; and
- That you have been the victim of a crime.
Just a question so I don't step on my tongue if this ever occurs...What are some examples of each item?
What assistance is needed? What does this mean? That you need police, ambulance etc?
It's an honest question..if I have it right in my head now, I won't say it wrong when it matters.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:32 am to EKG
My CCL class instructor also included a couple suggestions:
You were in fear for your life. You cannot say that enough.
You will gladly cooperate fully and answer all questions but not until your lawyer is present. After shooting someone your mind will not be right. Never say anything else besides "I was in fear for my life" or the like without an attorney present.
He also suggested that when placing the 911 call, request two ambulances. One for the assailant and one for you. The police will want you to come to the station for questioning and there will be bystanders and possibly media when you're taken away and its better for the images to show you leaving in an ambulance to the hospital than a police car. Don't flame me, he sounded like he knew what he was talking about.
You were in fear for your life. You cannot say that enough.
You will gladly cooperate fully and answer all questions but not until your lawyer is present. After shooting someone your mind will not be right. Never say anything else besides "I was in fear for my life" or the like without an attorney present.
He also suggested that when placing the 911 call, request two ambulances. One for the assailant and one for you. The police will want you to come to the station for questioning and there will be bystanders and possibly media when you're taken away and its better for the images to show you leaving in an ambulance to the hospital than a police car. Don't flame me, he sounded like he knew what he was talking about.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:33 am to AlxTgr
quote:
Do many of y'all really have an attorney? And, I mean one that actually practices criminal defense?
CCL insurance is a must-have. I have the highest-tier CCW-Safe plan and it runs about $500/yr. Card in my wallet with a 24/7 1-800 number. There are a couple others with slight coverage differences. MANY sites are out there that do line-by-line comparisons.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:36 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:34 am to EKG
U smart. I would love to have this
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:34 am to GeauxTrain
quote:
My CCL class instructor also included a couple suggestions:
You were in fear for your life. You cannot say that enough.
You will gladly cooperate fully and answer all questions but not until your lawyer is present. After shooting someone your mind will not be right. Never say anything else besides "I was in fear for my life" or the like without an attorney present.
He also suggested that when placing the 911 call, request two ambulances. One for the assailant and one for you. The police will want you to come to the station for questioning and there will be bystanders and possibly media when you're taken away and its better for the images to show you leaving in an ambulance to the hospital than a police car. Don't flame me, he sounded like he knew what he was talking about
This is similar to what my CCL instructor told me.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:35 am to NASA_ISS_Tiger
quote:
What assistance is needed?
We got this guy bleeding all over the sidewalk, so send someone to clean this shite up
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:35 am to AlxTgr
quote:
Do many of y'all really have an attorney? And, I mean one that actually practices criminal defense?
I wouldn't carry without paying for some kind of service. Texas Law Shield is who I have.
LINK for those interested.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:39 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:36 am to Luke
quote:
EKG.. post the contact info
Happy to.
They’re out of Houston; but again, they’ll represent all.
U.S. Lawshield
The monthly fee I pay is worth every stinkin’ penny.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:37 am to GeauxTrain
I’m a member of an association that provides insurance and legal representation. I have a card I carry in my wallet that has a “script” for what I should do/say, and an 800 number to call after calling 911.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:38 am to EKG
quote:
I pay for a monthly 2A legal service.
The attorneys are out of Texas, but they represent all states.
They’re available 24/7, 365
If anyone’s interested in looking into their services, I’m happy to share their info.
Post it. Patriots need our support.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:38 am to GeauxTrain
quote:
My CCL class instructor also included a couple suggestions:
You were in fear for your life. You cannot say that enough.
You will gladly cooperate fully and answer all questions but not until your lawyer is present. After shooting someone your mind will not be right. Never say anything else besides "I was in fear for my life" or the like without an attorney present.
He also suggested that when placing the 911 call, request two ambulances. One for the assailant and one for you. The police will want you to come to the station for questioning and there will be bystanders and possibly media when you're taken away and its better for the images to show you leaving in an ambulance to the hospital than a police car. Don't flame me, he sounded like he knew what he was talking about.
my non legal opinion is that your ccl instructor shouldnt be giving legal advice. The more you talk the more you have a chance of saying something that can be used against you in a highly stressful situation. Nothing you say can or will be used to help you, only hurt you. Say absolutely nothing without an attorney present.
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