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If TRUMP wins, like I hope he does, then most polls are complete BS!
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:36 pm
How inaccurate can a poll be? It is an absolute disaster how these polls are mostly all unbelievable.
Accurate news reporting has become extinct.
Accurate news reporting has become extinct.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:38 pm to oldskule
Didn’t we learn this 4 years ago?
Why does anyone still believe anything from a poll?
Why does anyone still believe anything from a poll?
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:42 pm to oldskule
On October 16, 2016 The NY Times said Hillary had a 91% chance of winning
quote:
The New York Times
Presidential Forecast
Tuesday, October 18, 2016
Hillary Clinton has a 91% chance to win ?
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:43 pm to oldskule
Brexit polls were way off as well. It’s just propaganda at this point.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:43 pm to oldskule
Almost EVERYBODY in the MSM thought Hillary was going to win
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:43 pm to oldskule
This already happened in 2016.
2020 will reiterate it
2020 will reiterate it
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:45 pm to oldskule
I think people are underestimating the amount of groundwork done to ensure that the Dems are able to effective steal this election. I’m fairly certain it’s a done deal at this point. Election Day results won’t matter. They will stall until they receive enough mail in ballots to declare Biden the winner.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:48 pm to musick
We're in danger of Appalachian State syndrome, if you can call it that. Just because Trump pulled off an upset one time, in 2016, doesn't mean that it's the norm, any more than App State beating Michigan once means that App State is favored to beat Michigan again in a rematch.
We often forget just how narrowly the last presidential election was won. Just 80,000 votes in the upper Midwest separated Trump in victory from defeat. That's less than one football stadium's capacity of people.
Could the polls be wrong again this year? Could be. But it would be extraordinarily foolish to just breezily dismiss them as "wrong". That's sticking one's head in the sand.
Michigan was favored to beat App State in both meetings; first time in 2007, second time in 2014. The second time, Michigan won handily.
We often forget just how narrowly the last presidential election was won. Just 80,000 votes in the upper Midwest separated Trump in victory from defeat. That's less than one football stadium's capacity of people.
Could the polls be wrong again this year? Could be. But it would be extraordinarily foolish to just breezily dismiss them as "wrong". That's sticking one's head in the sand.
Michigan was favored to beat App State in both meetings; first time in 2007, second time in 2014. The second time, Michigan won handily.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:50 pm to oldskule
All good points, but at least it's highly entertaining for those who can see what's coming.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:57 pm to memphis tiger
quote:
Didn’t we learn this 4 years ago?
Why does anyone still believe anything from a poll?
Once is an outlier/mistake. Twice is a trend.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 3:05 pm to AnyonebutSteelers
quote:
We're in danger of Appalachian State syndrome,
Still the polls had it way wrong even though the election was a close win.
Plus, Clinton was a far better candidate with a far more energized base.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 3:08 pm to oldskule
Globalist filth are banking on everyone being too stupid and lazy to research things on their own, so they'll just trust the bought and paid for media.
And, frankly, most people are too stupid and lazy to research things on their own, so they believe what social media and "news" tells them.
What they didn't expect, was that so many people are awake now, and have walked away from the traditional media that has been misinforming the American populace at an exponentially increasing rate for two+ decades.
People are tired of their shite.
Whoda ever thunk that normal, everyday, hard working, middle class citizens would get sick of millionaire media puppets, Hollywood liberal elites, music industry voices, professional athletes and big tech billionaires telling them what to do, how to think and how to vote??
Combine that with the above mentioned alliance of puppets spearheading the "cancel culture" movement and telling us normies that if we dissent from their exact ideology, we are racist, misogynistic, homophobic, fascist, rednecks and Uncle Toms who deserve to be executed or put into camps until we submit.
Conservatives in America are quickly going to become the equivalent of the Uyghurs in China.
And, frankly, most people are too stupid and lazy to research things on their own, so they believe what social media and "news" tells them.
What they didn't expect, was that so many people are awake now, and have walked away from the traditional media that has been misinforming the American populace at an exponentially increasing rate for two+ decades.
People are tired of their shite.
Whoda ever thunk that normal, everyday, hard working, middle class citizens would get sick of millionaire media puppets, Hollywood liberal elites, music industry voices, professional athletes and big tech billionaires telling them what to do, how to think and how to vote??
Combine that with the above mentioned alliance of puppets spearheading the "cancel culture" movement and telling us normies that if we dissent from their exact ideology, we are racist, misogynistic, homophobic, fascist, rednecks and Uncle Toms who deserve to be executed or put into camps until we submit.
Conservatives in America are quickly going to become the equivalent of the Uyghurs in China.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 3:09 pm to AnyonebutSteelers
quote:
We're in danger of Appalachian State syndrome
You could have just used the David versus Goliath comparison and saved some time.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 3:09 pm to Sev09
I think that obviously they have some flaws....You have some that oversample Dems and then you have some that sample registered voters as opposed to likely voters.
But the main thing is that there is no way to account for people that hang up or the people that will not answer truthfully or at all.
But the main thing is that there is no way to account for people that hang up or the people that will not answer truthfully or at all.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 3:26 pm to memphis tiger
quote:
Didn’t we learn this 4 years ago?
Why does anyone still believe anything from a poll?
So maybe the polls they're putting out there aren't entirely (ahem) representative?
Posted on 10/18/20 at 3:29 pm to oldskule
quote:How do you get accurate results when a lot of people are embarrassed to say who they like, or lie just to throw off the results?
How inaccurate can a poll be?
But, of course, most polls were not very far off in 2016. Most people just don't understand probabilities.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 3:30 pm to TigerAxeOK
I think people are intentionally misled by the media. Fortunately for the media, both sides report and react to the crapshoot they hear. There are over two million volunteers scattered through out each state campaigning for Trump. Each rally registers voters on the Republican rolls. Upwards to 38% of those in rally's are Democrat. The largest percentage of new voter registrations are Republican and ..... new voters V O T E.
Trafalger, the man that conducts that poll....predicted a Trump victory Friday. He will back on the show following Hannity on Monday. Watch and listen to the underpining of polls right now. There is steady gain in the projection that Trump has the swing states to win this. It seems the steady spooning of a fantasy Biden win has quickly dulled because it was all contrived in fantasyland. Looting and destroying people's property and livilyhood does little to encourage anyone voting for the party wearing blinders. Blacks and Hispanics have been on the receiving of nothing from Democrats. Nothing more than idle promises. Give Black and Hispanic men and women jobs and opportunity, they will migrate to your side. They don't want free Obama phones. They want opportunity. Exactly what does the historical racist Biden promise other than more of the Democrat same old failed economics theory?
Trafalger, the man that conducts that poll....predicted a Trump victory Friday. He will back on the show following Hannity on Monday. Watch and listen to the underpining of polls right now. There is steady gain in the projection that Trump has the swing states to win this. It seems the steady spooning of a fantasy Biden win has quickly dulled because it was all contrived in fantasyland. Looting and destroying people's property and livilyhood does little to encourage anyone voting for the party wearing blinders. Blacks and Hispanics have been on the receiving of nothing from Democrats. Nothing more than idle promises. Give Black and Hispanic men and women jobs and opportunity, they will migrate to your side. They don't want free Obama phones. They want opportunity. Exactly what does the historical racist Biden promise other than more of the Democrat same old failed economics theory?
Posted on 10/18/20 at 3:38 pm to oldskule
They are meant to suppress votes. "Awe geez, Biden is up by 14 percent. Not even worth voting for Trump anymore." That's the thinking they are trying to encourage.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 3:56 pm to oldskule
What’s the common denominator here for these last two election cycles having shitty polling results?
The non politician maybe? Trump has totally blown up the establishment including how you can somewhat accurately put a finger on the pulse of his base. We’re out here chilling and excited that we’re a part of history. We aren’t interested in the establishment. And that includes polls. And that’s the whole fricking point.
Landslide
The non politician maybe? Trump has totally blown up the establishment including how you can somewhat accurately put a finger on the pulse of his base. We’re out here chilling and excited that we’re a part of history. We aren’t interested in the establishment. And that includes polls. And that’s the whole fricking point.
Landslide
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 10/18/20 at 3:58 pm to RocketTiger
quote:But it works the opposite way.
They are meant to suppress votes. "Awe geez, Biden is up by 14 percent. Not even worth voting for Trump anymore." That's the thinking they are trying to encourage.
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