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re: Forget Covid, Forget the election. shite is about to get real
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:12 am to jcaz
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:12 am to jcaz
quote:Sounds like the chip in my debit card
I also had a freaky experience just last week. One of my bathroom lights went out months ago. I never changed it and no one else in the house would have. It started working again Friday morning. Did we get shifted again?
In general, I think the energy issue is what makes all this safe... we can't generate the amount of energy required to do something truly cataclysmic.
However, someone help me out here. I used to know a lot more about quantum physics as a lad, when I wanted to be the next Scotty (Star Trek). Grown adult responsibilities have dulled my mind;
But: tiny black holes? Forgive me, but isn't the size irrelevant? As in, once you start a black hole, won't it suck in surrounding matter, and start increasing mass? And then grow accordingly?
We're either not talking about "black holes" as commonly understood, or they're indeed fricking around with dangerous concepts. I would imagine the safeguard might be to play within a suitably large vacuum, and allow it to decompose after it's formed... do black holes decompose or dissipate? I'd think once you have collapsed subatomic distances enough to create a massive enough object that it becomes a singularity (black hole), it "stays". In theory then, you could seek to contain in within a suitable vacuum, but that would need to be in perpetuity. A breakdown of the vacuum in a decade, century, millennia etc, would lead to a cascade that would suck in surrounding matter, grow, and -poof- we're gone.
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Posted on 10/18/20 at 1:30 am to Scoob
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In theory then, you could seek to contain in within a suitable vacuum
Glad to see that someone else also realized the implications of this. They basically need to have a “box” ready to put this thing in when/if they create a black hole. They’ll have to go into the collider and retrieve the black hole. The “box” has gotta work and it’s gotta last forever (not an exaggeration).
What I’m also wondering about is how this all happens regarding the behavior of time. Time would move significantly slower as your distance increased from the black hole. So an hour extremely close to the black hole would be possibly relative to 50,000 hours for us as the observers.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 1:42 am to Scoob
Me browsing the OT at 1:40am looking for some lighthearted fun.
And then I see posts like this.....
...thinking, I seriously hope those scientists considered this ^^^
And then I see posts like this.....
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In general, I think the energy issue is what makes all this safe... we can't generate the amount of energy required to do something truly cataclysmic.
However, someone help me out here. I used to know a lot more about quantum physics as a lad, when I wanted to be the next Scotty (Star Trek). Grown adult responsibilities have dulled my mind;
But: tiny black holes? Forgive me, but isn't the size irrelevant? As in, once you start a black hole, won't it suck in surrounding matter, and start increasing mass? And then grow accordingly?
We're either not talking about "black holes" as commonly understood, or they're indeed fricking around with dangerous concepts. I would imagine the safeguard might be to play within a suitably large vacuum, and allow it to decompose after it's formed... do black holes decompose or dissipate? I'd think once you have collapsed subatomic distances enough to create a massive enough object that it becomes a singularity (black hole), it "stays". In theory then, you could seek to contain in within a suitable vacuum, but that would need to be in perpetuity. A breakdown of the vacuum in a decade, century, millennia etc, would lead to a cascade that would suck in surrounding matter, grow, and -poof- we're gone.
...thinking, I seriously hope those scientists considered this ^^^
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:37 am to Scoob
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But: tiny black holes? Forgive me, but isn't the size irrelevant? As in, once you start a black hole, won't it suck in surrounding matter, and start increasing mass? And then grow accordingly?
My very little brain's understanding is that we don't have the power/technology to create a stable black hole that could do anything like that. What they're doing would create a black hole for an instant and it would collapse on itself, just giving us a little peek.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 9:44 am to Scoob
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In theory then, you could seek to contain in within a suitable vacuum, but that would need to be in perpetuity.
Yeah ummm...vacuums don't block gravity.
Even if all matter was out of range of the tiny black hole...the tiny black hole is in range of this big rock we're sitting on.
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