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Posted on 10/14/20 at 4:51 am
Posted by burasjr123
amite,la.
Member since Nov 2009
316 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 4:51 am
He teaches the same system that Pete Carroll teaches,every where Pete Carroll went, bo followed,its mostly cover 2 /Tampa 2 man press with some zone. Coming from Monte kidding.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 5:01 am
Posted by BlackAngus
350 Sonic Blvd
Member since Jan 2020
2345 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:08 am to
Wonderful
Posted by lsulaw91
Houma
Member since Mar 2008
171 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:16 am to
Can’t be! I haven’t seen LSU dbs cover anyone! ??????
Posted by LSUCouyon
ONTHELAKEATDELHI, La.
Member since Oct 2006
11338 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:53 am to
I haven’t figured out if there’s a method to his madness or vice versa.

May be just a total shitshow by all appearances.
Posted by GeauxBroke
Member since Aug 2007
262 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:53 am to
Hot take
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10313 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:58 am to
I wonder if the players aren't buying in or something. Are they fragile and don't like his get in your face method? If you read the rant it's all the defense are SJWs' and don't like being yelled at.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:03 am to
the players are buying in. it takes time and talent, both of which we don't have nearly as much as most of you think.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:37 am to
quote:

I wonder if the players aren't buying in or something. Are they fragile and don't like his get in your face method?
I think many here are conflating or merging two different things.

We might (likely?) have a buy in problem. A buy in problem exists when the players don't trust the system, coaching, or calls. It's when a coach says guys, here's the plan, and it's gonna work. And the players mumble under their breath that no, it isn't.

Attitude problems resulting from personality conflicts are a different thing from buy in. Firstly, like a kid with parents, players have (or should have) a certain low-level animosity for coaches. If they don't, they aren't being pushed. But a marathon runner punishes himself physically but still enjoys it. These players may know practice is going to be rough and they know the coaches are going to make sure of that... but it is in their DNA to go do it. It's in their competitive nature.

Secondly, all coaches, especially defensive coaches have an in your face way of doing things. It comes with the job and they learned that way. Even if cajoling it's still aggressive, one on one, and targeted. These players have seen it for years. While their age peers may despise such things, they have been inoculated through herd immunity by years of exposure to the Millenial Disease (when it comes to coaches and the field only). They may gripe... they will gripe. Most do. But the vast majority will still show up and play to win regardless of the griping. That is also in their DNA, to gripe but still go do it. That's the beauty of college sports. When you hear coaches talking about making men or watching them grow up... that's mainly what they are referring to.

But if they don't trust that the coaches are giving them all the tools and putting them in the best position, a.k.a. buy in... it's all for naught. Les had this issue with his OL. When 6 are trying to block 8 with a 9th guy flying in because the predictability is so strong and the keys so easy and all they hear is "do better" and "must execute", you will lose them.

When you hear players start to say "I do everything you say, but it's not working" hit the breaks real fricking hard and reset. You are at a tipping point. That's when buy in and attitude merge (to circle back to the beginning of my post). That's where failure caused lack of buy in and is now causing attitude problems that will lead to 'quit'. But there's no SJW or Millenial influence there. Or getting yelled at. It's a faith, trust, and success equation.
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
19225 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:37 am to
We shouldn’t be this bad. We’re young and inexperienced with a new system, I get that. But what’s going on out there is chaos. We’re never in position. Whatever we do, offenses know exactly where and how to attack. Just look at the 3rd down and 3rd and long success. These are not great offenses doing whatever they want.

I don’t know how to fix it in time to salvage the season, I’m just hoping it gets done somehow. We have enough talent to at least slow people down some.
Posted by KennabraTiger
Kenner, LA
Member since Sep 2013
7711 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:48 am to
Oh he’s kidding. Ok, delete stupid thread
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
11462 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:48 am to
It’s possible that they just haven’t grasped it yet.

I’m giving them time.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
469977 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:57 am to
quote:

the same system that Pete Carroll teaches

quote:

its mostly cover 2 /Tampa 2 man press with some zone


Posted by Mister Falcon
Member since Dec 2019
435 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 7:17 am to
Then he’s a shitty teacher
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27271 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 7:54 am to
quote:

cover 2


I think this defense has taken a hit, no pun intended, with the targeting rules. Guys aren't afraid to go over the middle of the field anymore.
Posted by BayouBengals90
Nashville
Member since Jan 2009
2082 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 7:59 am to
That has to be a joke. Stingley is considered one of the top overall prospects and he’s not even draft eligible. Besides Flott, every DB is a 4 star +. We got incredibly talented transfers in Cox and Gaye. The talent is 100% there, and the effort hasn’t. Players are running away from tackles, that’s clearly a lack of desire to play in said system.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69636 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:05 am to
quote:

Players are running away from tackles, that’s clearly a lack of desire to play in said system.


to believe this you must think our players are non competitive pussies?
Posted by treyk89
Member since Oct 2003
2264 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:07 am to
Pelini can’t relate to the kids he’s coaching either. He’s old and washed up and stuck in his ways, I don’t mean just football either. I think there is more going on than just what’s happening on the field. It’s obvious.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26160 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:09 am to
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bo pelini


Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34165 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:24 am to
I've heard about pelini s in your face attitude of old but I'm just not seeing it

I think he calmed with age
I haven't seen it at spring practice or the games.

His system only works if you have an elite d line
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:37 am to
quote:

I've heard about pelini s in your face attitude of old but I'm just not seeing it

I think he calmed with age
I haven't seen it at spring practice or the games.
definitely seems to be the case. He seems to have toned it down to the average defensive coach. Which is still too much for people outside football.

You know as well as I do, a coach that doesn't criticize, chew arse, nag, and push isn't a coach at all.

If coaches were politicians there would be riots in the streets (oh, wait). If politicians were coaches it would be like southpark's sarcastiball. These are two different worlds; people should stop trying to translate one to the other. That's why practice fields have fences and lockerooms have locks now a days. They're trying to keep the "conventions" of the wider world out. Because it doesn't work on the field or in the lockeroom.
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