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Posted on 9/22/20 at 5:23 pm to Roaad
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isn't that Marxist, by definition?
No, but...
Is Marxism woke now? Are we just continually adding things people here don't like to the definition of "wokeness"?
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:39 pm to Jay Are
quote:Wait. . .
Is Marxism woke now?
Was Marxism ever separate from "wokeness"?
Or are you being sarcastic?
This post was edited on 9/22/20 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:41 pm to Jay Are
quote:
Are we just continually adding things people here don't like to the definition of "wokeness"?
We added every movie with a female lead to SJW, so.....
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:43 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Why did you do that?
Posted on 9/22/20 at 7:01 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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Netflix pulled Karate Kid films like two days after Cobra Kai dropped.
We got a free 30 day showtime trial and watched the first 2. Not sure it's worth watching 3.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:03 pm to imjustafatkid
Is the show Woke about marxism? Does everyone's woke Oscar winner Moonlight involve marxism? Does the board punching bag Captain Marvel involve marxism? Are the 60s films of Jean-Luc Godard woke because of his marxism, regardless of what we'd consider a pretty sexist world-view evident in several of his films?
The answer to all those is no, unless we now think that simply acknowledging that there are poor people is marxism.
I'd like to formally submit the depiction of pickled vegetables in film and TV to the Moving Goalposts Definition of Woke Committee. Pickled vegetables don't necessarily offend me, but I think they taste bad, and their presence is indicative of European influence on America, which might as well be Chinese influence.
The answer to all those is no, unless we now think that simply acknowledging that there are poor people is marxism.
I'd like to formally submit the depiction of pickled vegetables in film and TV to the Moving Goalposts Definition of Woke Committee. Pickled vegetables don't necessarily offend me, but I think they taste bad, and their presence is indicative of European influence on America, which might as well be Chinese influence.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:09 pm to blueboy
I hate the new woke influence in movies and television, but I loved this show. I don't remember any same sex gelfling parents. The skeksis were awesome. I was always kind of shocked that this was made for kids.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:20 pm to blueboy
quote:
Why would someone not want to watch that?
Well if that’s why, I guess It’s because they’re a douche.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:37 pm to Roaad
quote:
isn't that Marxist, by definition?
No.
While class struggle is the central conflict of Marxism, it's the way Marx described class struggle that was truly important - basically organized materialism that drives economic production - and that makes things "marxist."
The American Revolution was not a Marxist revolution and that was partially a class struggle.
Serf revolts in medieval times were also class struggles, and were not Marxist in nature. Scots vs. Brits. Etc.
Don't buy into that theory at all, but it provides good discussion. Humans rebel against the more powerful all of the time, and not all of it is Marxist.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:40 pm to rebelrouser
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I hate the new woke influence in movies and television, but I loved this show. I don't remember any same sex gelfling parents. The skeksis were awesome. I was always kind of shocked that this was made for kids.
This. I thought it was fantastic and I've hated Marxism and Identity politics long before it was cool.
This post was edited on 9/22/20 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 9/22/20 at 9:07 pm to Freauxzen
I dont get it why would they cancel this?
It was really well done.
It was really well done.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:17 am to CBandits82
I loved the movie as a kid. I tried to rewatch the show and got about half way through and never watched it again. It wasn't bad but it wasn't good either. It's also a pretty niche property.
It meandered and has too many episodes. They probably should have just made it into a film instead of a series.
The show is probably very expensive to produce and it didn't seem to move the needle at all when it came out a while back. For Netflix, that's a bad combo.
It meandered and has too many episodes. They probably should have just made it into a film instead of a series.
The show is probably very expensive to produce and it didn't seem to move the needle at all when it came out a while back. For Netflix, that's a bad combo.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 5:18 am
Posted on 9/23/20 at 7:14 am to Jay Are
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Is Marxism woke now? Are we just continually adding things people here don't like to the definition of "wokeness"?
the entire concept of wokeness is a tool being used by Marxists and if you read policies for "woke" organizations, it's typically filled with Marxist ideas
Posted on 9/25/20 at 7:36 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I had no idea this was NOT common knowledge.
the entire concept of wokeness is a tool being used by Marxists and if you read policies for "woke" organizations, it's typically filled with Marxist ideas
The root of "wokeness" is critical theory, ffs! When people talk about intersectionality, that is Marxism. Are we so academically lost, that we don't know even that?
For those who are unaware, Das Kapital is COMPLETELY predicated on 2 things:
1) Strawman attack on Marx's vast misunderstanding of capitalism, the movement of capital, and how markets grow.
2) Critical Theory
There are other proponents of critical theory, but in the modern vernacular, "critical theory" and "Marxism" are basically interchangeable.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 8:38 am to Roaad
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but in the modern vernacular, "critical theory" and "Marxism" are basically interchangeable.
This is true. Make it all totally misleading, but true.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 9:47 am to Freauxzen
Not all critical theory is Marxist, but all Marxist philosophy is critical theory.
All "woke" ideology is Marxist critical theory, as it is based on intersectionality.
Intersectionality is merely a hierarchical Venn diagram of victimhood that was invented to explain Marxist theory, without saying "Marx".
All "woke" ideology is Marxist critical theory, as it is based on intersectionality.
Intersectionality is merely a hierarchical Venn diagram of victimhood that was invented to explain Marxist theory, without saying "Marx".
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 9:48 am
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