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re: How many people have actually died from Covid?
Posted on 9/13/20 at 8:33 pm to Niccolo Machiavelli
Posted on 9/13/20 at 8:33 pm to Niccolo Machiavelli
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Quite the contrary. You’re trying to attribute those diseases to Covid when those people already had those diseases.
Not the disease but the death. Would someone with x disease pre covid die at some point? Possibly. Covid creates other complications which would lead to an earlier death.
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Posted on 9/13/20 at 8:36 pm to Korkstand
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This is true.
For what age group? Are you saying a 20 year old has a greater chance of dying from Covid than an auto accident?
Posted on 9/13/20 at 8:38 pm to cito
So wouldn’t you want to know those specifics in order to calculate risk? Does it make sense for a 30 year old to base his Covid risk on an 80 year old with heart disease?
Posted on 9/13/20 at 8:39 pm to cito
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Covid causes other health complications which a person dies from. Much like aids. It compromises the immune system and you die from other illnesses. you guys are retarded
No that’s the point with the restrictions....we know what deficiencies this virus attacks....if you are in that critical group(s) then you should take extra precautions. Pretty simple.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 9:28 pm to Niccolo Machiavelli
At this point what difference does it make.
I've had 2 friends die from covid. They were healthy before.
So frickin what!??! I'm 72. I've had a lot of friends and kinfolk die from a lot of things.
Wuhan just got added to the list of shite that kills us. We gonna die one day from something. Let's get on with life.
If I get scared I'll stay home wearing a dam halloween mask that looks like JBE. NOTHING would attack me then.
I've had 2 friends die from covid. They were healthy before.
So frickin what!??! I'm 72. I've had a lot of friends and kinfolk die from a lot of things.
Wuhan just got added to the list of shite that kills us. We gonna die one day from something. Let's get on with life.
If I get scared I'll stay home wearing a dam halloween mask that looks like JBE. NOTHING would attack me then.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 9:38 pm to cito
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Covid causes other health complications which a person dies from.
News to me. Seems backwards.quote:Well, THAT sure helps your argument!!!
you guys are retarded
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:04 pm to Redbone
I wonder if the deaths from heart disease, diabetes, etc, etc are randomly down this year? Anybody want to bet?
In all seriousness, where can I find these numbers.
In all seriousness, where can I find these numbers.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:08 pm to Niccolo Machiavelli
Officially, just under 200k in the US. But surely quite a bit more than that who were never tested. If I had to guess I'd say in the neighborhood of 230k Americans have died from COVID
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:08 pm to Grim
And how many more have actually recovered?
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:10 pm to cito
Had those same at risk people contracted the flu, same outcome.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:13 pm to davyjones
Anybody know - was George Floyd recorded as a COVID death? He had the virus. He complained of at least two symptoms of the virus. That's supposed qualify a death as a COVID death.
This post was edited on 9/13/20 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:22 pm to Grim
Knowing at least one way they jack up the numbers of covid positive, I don't trust a damn thing. Have a friend who was positive and had to eventually produce a negative test result in order to be allowed back to work. Well, this good man actually sought to get back to work as quickly as possible, and after the proscribed number of days he tested again, still positive. Tested 2 more times, still positive on each. Finally the 4th go round was negative. Total positive cases that stemmed from this one gentleman: 4
One man contributed 4 to that overall national tally due to utterly irresponsible and ill intending guidelines. So I won't be believing the spoon fed statistics in the face of irrefutable evidence of statistic padding.
One man contributed 4 to that overall national tally due to utterly irresponsible and ill intending guidelines. So I won't be believing the spoon fed statistics in the face of irrefutable evidence of statistic padding.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:23 pm to Jrv2damac
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And how many more have actually recovered?
NYC about a month ago projected that over 40% of the population had antibodies. It may be more than that.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:25 pm to David_DJS
I did hear and/or read that a few times, but it would surely be included in the coroners' reports if so. Perhaps there are amended reports. That would be quite interesting.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:37 pm to cito
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Not the disease but the death. Would someone with x disease pre covid die at some point? Possibly. Covid creates other complications which would lead to an earlier death.
An official German government study that leaked out noted that most of the people who had died of cv19 had extremely short life expectancy in any event. Was Covid the big killer or the straw that broke the camel's back?
I guess it is how you look at it.
This post was edited on 9/13/20 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:41 pm to Auburn1968
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An official German government study that leaked out noted that most of the people who had died of cv19 had extremely short life expectancy in any event. Was Covid the big killer or the straw that broke the camel's back?
The mortality rate in nursing homes is nearly 35%. What's the mortality rate of people in hospice? Gotta be nearly 100%? How many people who have died of or with COVID were in nursing homes or hospice? That's got to be more than half, right?
Maybe somebody knows?
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:41 pm to Nuts
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believe there's a metric called 'excess deaths' which takes
the number of expected deaths per year from seasonal flu, diabetes, coronary diseases, etc and compares then to this year for covid related deaths
That's not what excess deaths does. It's simply how many people died this year of all causes over a period of time and comparing it with previous periods.
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Takeaway is that there are excessive deaths, but the numbers aren't nearly alarming enough to justify a 'pandemic'.
Leaving aside that pandemic has nothing to do with death, it's a measure of spread, what you do think alarming number of deaths would be?
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:59 pm to Slevin7
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I wonder if the deaths from heart disease, diabetes, etc, etc are randomly down this year? Anybody want to bet?
This is what I’ve been saying.
If Trump has to be blamed for all the covid deaths, he should be credited with eliminating deaths due to cancer, heart disease and diabetes...
I’d also like to see the comparison between 2019’s non-covid deaths compared to 2020’s non-covid deaths.
Oh, and how many run of the mill flu deaths this year. Assuming they’ve been rolled into the covid count too.
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