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re: Spoke with friend who is also a Pels ticket rep

Posted on 9/6/20 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by Brettd13
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 9/6/20 at 4:24 pm to
I would not be surprised. Me and my company are among those who did not renew our tickets because of the SJ decisions made by them team and the association.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72115 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 4:31 pm to
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Just saw this post while watching the game. If you have some tix available for another game in the future, email me at brettdut13@gmail.com


You and your company have tickets but you were begging for tickets on here in January
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14764 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 4:33 pm to
I love this team also, just can't stomach more than 5 mins of the bullshite spewed during games, along with the "messages" on jerseys and the court.

Maybe with low ratings during the playoffs at a time when they should be breaking records for viewers, it might wake up the owners to the point they tell these players to cut the bullshite.

It would be even better if they paid someone to come in and actually educate them on what the real problems in the black community are. (Hint: It's not police)
This post was edited on 9/6/20 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Smedium27
Bestbank
Member since Aug 2010
3517 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:32 pm to
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People watch sports to get away from the bullshite of life.


Regardless of your OPINION. Sports was a place where everyone came together

Not anymore
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14989 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 10:21 pm to
I’m interested in seeing what happens to the ratings as the post season progresses.

Jazz/Nuggets game 7 had 3.38M viewers, where as last seasons Spurs/Nuggets had 3.49M. I’m not a ratings expert but that doesn’t seem like much difference
Posted by Gonadballbarian
Member since Dec 2017
494 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 10:38 pm to
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I've never claimed to be a boycott person. The messages don’t bother me. But some are tired of being bombarded with politics and whatnot in every aspect of life, no matter their position


Are you freaking kidding me? I love how you come across as completely confident in this reply. This has zero to do with politics... weather it comes across as politics or not.... THIS.... is human rights.. human freaking rights! if you don't understand that, it's probably because yours have never been f****** threatened.. And you don't give a shite... the right to live as an equal human being...if you don't agree with using a basketball game as a chance to help human rights then you're sick in the f****** head. And so are the rest of you that upvoted. I'm ashamed of my home state..... and... so the message doesn't bother you, but seeing it on the back of a shirt does because it's politics in a basketball game?????????? Eat a bag of dicks
This post was edited on 9/6/20 at 10:40 pm
Posted by Gonadballbarian
Member since Dec 2017
494 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 10:46 pm to
So they get murdered more often because it's self-inflicted because they don't act correct?because the cops have a right to be racist against them because they beat up women etc etc? so therefore there's not really racism it's just blacks are worse people than other people is what you're saying?? and they deserve to get murdered because they self-inflict people hating them right? Do you know how many white rednecks beat the s*** out of women????? You know the percentage of black people who are raised in the projects with no choices in income or even survival? The system wasn't created by them.... open your heart a little... Jesus
Posted by Macintosh504
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Member since Sep 2011
52730 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 10:53 pm to
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So they get murdered more often
statistically false also weird melt with the rest of that message
This post was edited on 9/6/20 at 10:54 pm
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11791 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 11:38 pm to
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It appears the NBA/Pelicans have lost a considerable amount of season ticket holders due to BLM position. 37% season ticket non-renewals who are permanent.


I didn’t renew bc they doubled prices and couldn’t win a game that mattered in the bubble. It had 0% to do with anything else.
Posted by DMCfan1331
Member since Oct 2017
84 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:28 am to
Says the ppl with a president that looks down on women lol get over yourself. Lol don’t speak on another race if you don’t know anything about their culture... See that’s what wrong with ppl like minded like you... you are very opinionated on a topic that you haven’t lived... if you can’t be put in another person’s shoes don’t speak on it... Cause I promise you you wouldn’t be able to handle it
Posted by Pelliveli
Member since Jun 2015
1012 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:29 am to
lol in case you were wondering, there are some people who see the hypocrisy and blatant racism of people on this board, in this state, and around this globe who don't mind being entertained by a black player, cheering for/against him/her, wearing their jersey and sneaker but still thinking of them as nothing but chattel at the end of the day. BLM (Whom I am not a supporter of), according to people on this board, can be marx-ists, commun-ists, social-ists, etc.. but notice the people posting that they don't care about the issues their "chattel" are facing, and protesting against, never consider themselves
rac-ists. lmao btw England, research David Duke if you aren't already familiar. His constituency is undoubtedly all over this board
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 12:35 am
Posted by England_Pelican
England
Member since Apr 2018
3803 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 1:21 am to
I find it astonishing to be honest.
People literally get angry, over other people trying to make a change (a human rights change!) for the better, using the platform that they can use, to do so.

...and that gets people riled up?! If that angers you, you probably have racist tendencies unfortunately.
Posted by Macintosh504
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Member since Sep 2011
52730 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 1:48 am to
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People literally get angry, over other people trying to make a change (a human rights change!) for the better, using the platform that they can use, to do so.



Thing is you have these people using this issue to riot and loot small businesses and destroy lives and kill innocent people. Meanwhile athletes, politicians, and other Celebrities neglect to use this platform and completely ignore or condemn these actions happening. In fact, there’s people who stand for BLM that promote these violent actions on businesses and people who aren’t even involved. That’s why people get pissed off at this movement.

also the complete hypocrisy of athletes who talk about human rights in America but in other countries like China they completely neglect and ignore those countries holding literal concentration camps and have companies like Nike and Apple using these slaves as their workers because they know if they speak out on that they’ll lose out on millions. These people are only woke and humanitarian as long as it doesn’t effect their wallets.

Most sane people understand the issues with what happened with Floyd. Idc if he had drugs in his system. If he says he can’t breathe once he’s detained, its the police job to assist him. They didn’t. They deserve their punishment which they’ll get. Jacob Blake on the other hand is a shite example of racial injustice. And now you have celebrities and dumbasses treating him like some innocent guy who did nothing wrong because they don’t wait until the facts come out on him and just run with their agendas. That’s another reason to be pissed off at this BLM issue that people have a problem with.

You can be for judicial reform, some police reform, and other issues of equality and still see the problems with BLM and how some celebrities,politicians, and other uneducated folks with a platform have handled it.


The major problem I have with the bs you and these randos on this board who I’ve never seen before in my life on here (as well as just anyone else in regard to this topic) is if someone doesn’t fully agree to everything a black man/woman or people who represent the BLM when it comes to this topic or comply to their demands, then they’re labeled a racist.These people say “they want a conversation” but usually the conversation they want is for them to speak and you to not say anything but nod your head and agree to what they say or else.

This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 1:55 am
Posted by England_Pelican
England
Member since Apr 2018
3803 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 2:09 am to
This is a sensible and well considered response...and an interesting read.

The point of these actions, by the players... is that the conversation is being had... that has to be a good thing. Without it, we 100% wouldn’t be having it...certainly here. But we are... so it’s working and will eventually (hopefully) lead somewhere.
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 2:12 am
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3756 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 3:28 am to
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Without it, we 100% wouldn’t be having it...certainly here.


Good. It doesn’t belong here. This is a fricking sports board.

The conversations can be had outside of here. It doesn’t have to be disingenuously injected into every single aspect of daily life.
Posted by Swank
South Yorkshire
Member since Oct 2014
848 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 6:21 am to
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Thing is you have these people using this issue to riot and loot small businesses and destroy lives and kill innocent people. Meanwhile athletes, politicians, and other Celebrities neglect to use this platform and completely ignore or condemn these actions happening. In fact, there’s people who stand for BLM that promote these violent actions on businesses and people who aren’t even involved. That’s why people get pissed off at this movement.


No real change has ever occurred is this country through peaceful protest. Jim Crow era America had countless riots. The Civil Rights Movement in the 50s-60s was not a peaceful movement at all, people died, black people were lynched and property was destroyed during riots. Is it fun to watch people die and lose their businesses, houses, etc. during riots? No, but the ends justify the means if real change in policing in this country is achieved.

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also the complete hypocrisy of athletes who talk about human rights in America but in other countries like China they completely neglect and ignore those countries holding literal concentration camps and have companies like Nike and Apple using these slaves as their workers because they know if they speak out on that they’ll lose out on millions. These people are only woke and humanitarian as long as it doesn’t effect their wallets


This is a lazy logical fallacy (red herring fallacy) people use to tear down BLM. LeBron can be wrong (and he was wrong) about China, but he can be right about the systemic racism through policing and other institutions black people in the US face in their life. The two aren't related at all. The NBA doesn't have the same influence in the China as they do in the US, if you're angry at the Chinese government, maybe you should look at your elected officials, you know people who actually have the power to create and legislate change, to address that issue, not NBA players.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14764 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:04 am to
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So they get murdered more often because it's self-inflicted because they don't act correct?


Statistically speaking, they don't get killed more often by police than anyone else, they just commit more crime than the population percentage would suggest, which is why basing it off population percentage is bullshite.

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because the cops have a right to be racist against them because they beat up women

No, the cops have a right to enforce the laws on the books. How do you think Blake's ex that he sexually assaulted and beat feels about people like you making a martyr out of him? Or the pregnant woman that Floyd held a gun to her stomach and threatened to kill her baby?

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so therefore there's not really racism it's just blacks are worse people than other people is what you're saying


Worse? No. Commit more crime? Yes

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You know the percentage of black people who are raised in the projects with no choices in income or even survival


This can be tied to 2 things. 1st) Fatherless homes, which in the black community is approximately 67% of them. 2nd) Education. These "poor black people raised in projects" drop out of school at a high rate, and their schools are generally underfunded. Not surprisingly, this happens in Democrat ran cities.

There's 2 proven keys to success, 1) Get a high school diploma 2) No kids until marriage. Neither of these happen at a high percentage.

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The system wasn't created by them

They live under the same exact laws as everyone else in this country. There are no racist laws left on the books anywhere. Other minorities, especially Asians, are flourishing, there's no more "sytemic" excuses.
Posted by PelsForLife
Member since May 2019
457 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:08 am to
Systemic racism? What rights do whites or any race have that blacks don't? Please tell me. I've heard and seen multiple stories of blacks that were raised in the hood or ghetto, make it out because they think for themselves and not follow the same people they grow up with or are around.

How about we fix the issues with the schools in these areas and fix the issues with the families and households that raise these kids? Maybe just maybe that'll help?
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 7:12 am
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14764 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:15 am to
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I find it astonishing to be honest.
People literally get angry, over other people trying to make a change (a human rights change!) for the better, using the platform that they can use, to do so.


I find it astonishing people still blame whites, rather than looking in their own communities at what the real issues are that plague black communities, then they have this whole "movement" based on lies, with lives and property losses, for nothing to change, because the change won't come until the neighborhoods/lifestyles of black men begin to change.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23391 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:31 am to
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What are you / your friend saying?...people aren’t renewing tickets because they disagree with the nba / pelicans wanting equality for everyone and not being scared to show it?


No decent person wants to associate with institutions that support racist Marxist violent dishonest trash.
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