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California outmigration jumps 38% as departures rise for 7th straight year

Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:07 pm
Posted by goofball
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:07 pm
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California outmigration jumps 38% as departures rise for 7th straight year


Census figures show 691,145 Californians last year left for other states — the largest loss nationally and up 4.6% in a year

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California had 190,122 more residents move out to other states in 2018 than arrived — a 38% jump in a much-discussed outmigration benchmark, new Census Bureau data shows.

More ins than outs — or what experts call “net domestic migration outflow” — is frequently blamed on California’s high cost of living, from housing to high taxes. And the state’s liberal politics have soured some conservatives on Golden State living.

Census figures show 691,145 Californians last year left for other states — the largest loss nationally and up 4.6% in a year. It was the seventh consecutive annual increase.


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California’s real population challenge is getting other Americans to move here.

Yes, 501,023 new residents arrived from other states in 2018. And yes, that’s the third-highest inflow among the states. But that’s down 4.2% in a year and is a five-year low. Plus, it’s the nation’s worst rate of attraction: Only 1.3% of the state’s population moved last year to California from elsewhere in the U.S.


Your new neighbors in Texas, Tennessee, Nevada, and Florida may be from California.

Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19812 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:08 pm to
Their plan to seed red states is working
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25838 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:12 pm to
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Their plan to seed red states is working



Yeah, the folks that leave need to realize that a change in voting/policy is needed to prevent from what they are escaping.


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outmigration


Also, isn't this emigration? Why use this word?
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:13 pm to
That chart is skewed in a way that makes me not take the article seriously. California is generating and exporting a lot of wealth because it's the tech hub of the world.

As companies grow they look to remote workers and other places to find generic labor. It would be expected that they get generic labor from lower cost of living areas. If you're a regular white collar stiff you can cash out on your California real estate and overpay for something in the South and still feel like you got a great deal. None of that would happen if California weren't generating the jobs in the first place.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27122 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:13 pm to
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California outmigration jumps 38% as departures rise for 7th straight year


They're actually expected to lose an Electoral College vote for the first time in the state's history once this census is done due to the population loss.
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 1:16 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
75977 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:14 pm to
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Also, isn't this emigration? Why use this word?




One is used in reference to leaving a country one is used in reference tp relocation.

Not sure emigration would be necessarily wrong here though.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25838 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:15 pm to
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One is used in reference to leaving a country one is used in reference tp relocation.

Not sure emigration would be necessarily wrong here though.


Ah...I guess that's it. Didn't realize there was a separate word for within country movement.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58265 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:16 pm to
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Yeah, the folks that leave need to realize that a change in voting/policy is needed to prevent from what they are escaping.

i have said for years, this needs to be a right talking point. it should be marketed... hey you Blue guys that arent as left as your party, Come on over but dont vote the same way because you are leaving that outcome.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:21 pm to
Are they counting illegals entering?

Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:33 pm to
We Know


From Texas
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:35 pm to
Sun may rise in the east but at least it settles in a better location.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by Bushwackers
Ridin' shotgun with Reese Bobby!
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:36 pm to
"If we can't get them out, then we will just br(long rolling of tongue)-eeed them out."
--Longshanks
Posted by Paul Allen
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:36 pm to


Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29097 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:40 pm to
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Yeah, the folks that leave need to realize that a change in voting/policy is needed to prevent from what they are escaping.


My experience with the transplants relocating from blue states to here in Middle Tennessee is that liberal transplants will move to Nashville proper and the conservative transplants, of which there are a lot, will move to the more conservative burbs. There hasn't yet been any large swing in any direction due to out-of-staters moving here. I think some of y'all think everyone fleeing those states is bathed in blue. Quite a few reds leaving, too.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17324 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:41 pm to
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Yeah, the folks that leave need to realize that a change in voting/policy is needed to prevent from what they are escaping.



A LOT of the people leaving California are middle class moderates/conservatives. Certainly not all, but a lot of them.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8510 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

quote:
Yeah, the folks that leave need to realize that a change in voting/policy is needed to prevent from what they are escaping.


My experience with the transplants relocating from blue states to here in Middle Tennessee is that liberal transplants will move to Nashville proper and the conservative transplants, of which there are a lot, will move to the more conservative burbs. There hasn't yet been any large swing in any direction due to out-of-staters moving here. I think some of y'all think everyone fleeing those states is bathed in blue. Quite a few reds leaving, too.


Both Clinton and Beto would have won Texas in 2016 if only native Texans were allowed to vote.

I surmise that there has been a lot of self-selection for people leaving blue economic basketcases for greener pastures. Middle class conservatives go to Florida, Georgia, Texas, et al. Liberals go to Colorado, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, and so on. Florida has largely stayed purple-ish red and not swung very blue because of the voting patterns of the people who are moving in, not because of native Floridians.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11346 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Also, isn't this emigration? Why use this word?


Emigration is the act of leaving a resident country or place of residence[1] with the intent to settle elsewhere (to permanently leave a country).[2] Conversely, immigration describes the movement of people into one country from another (to permanently move to a country).[3] Hence one might emigrate from one's native country to immigrate to another country. Both are acts of migration across national or other geographical boundaries.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33409 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 2:04 pm to
They need to stay there and fix their own shite.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58760 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 2:05 pm to
That's bad news for the rest of the country
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