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Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:37 pm to Street Hawk
Sweden duh. They have 30x fewer than the US. They would achieve it first even if they had locked down completely.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:38 pm to WDE24
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Sweden is there
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based on
No real restrictions and less than 5 deaths/day.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:39 pm to WDE24
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most of US soon
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based on
NY and NE deaths far below peaks.
NYC has had days with zero deaths this week.
Same pattern appearing in the South and Texas.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:43 pm to Street Hawk
This herd immunity shite again. You ever wonder why it hasn't been achieved by anybody yet? Yea.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:43 pm to Klark Kent
Do the math. About 330 million people in the U.S. pick any percentage you think constitutes herd immunity. If we average between 50,000 - 100,000 new cases per day, it will take a few years to gain herd immunity. That assumes that people keep imminity over the duration.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:44 pm to Privateer 2007
All good news. How does that relate to herd immunity?
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Viruses EVOLVE to be more contagious but less deadly
This has probably already happened with COVID-19. It would explain the shockingly low death totals in the last month in the USA.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:46 pm to bayouboo
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330 million
Herd threshold is 20-30%.
40 million plus already infected.
Most infections aren't even caught.
It's not that far off.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:46 pm to bayouboo
exactly, we don’t know what the % threshold is to reach heard immunity
we also don’t know if a vaccine is a certainty. It’s not.
we also don’t know if a vaccine is a certainty. It’s not.
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:50 pm to WDE24
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how does that relate to herd immunity
Sweden behavior isn't changed, yet deaths down about 95%.
NYC is relaxing restrictions.
And deaths down 99%.
Even the most ardent mask proponent has to admit they aren't cutting 99% of infections.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:52 pm to Klark Kent
I'm not sure what's driving your vaccine skepticism, but there are 5 vaccines around the world in phase 3 already, with many more soon reaching that threshold. Oxford vaccine could potentially be given emergency authorization in 2 months. There's a chance these vaccines fail in phase 3, but you gotta be pretty pessimistic to believe that none will work.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:53 pm to Privateer 2007
quote:I feel like you are conflating infections and deaths.
And deaths down 99%.
Even the most ardent mask proponent has to admit they aren't cutting 99% of infections.
You keep stating all of this about herd immunity, but haven't ever linked to a source backing up the statements. I don't want to doubt you, but I would prefer to read about it and evaluate the reliability of the source.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:53 pm to TruBrew
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This herd immunity shite again. You ever wonder why it hasn't been achieved by anybody yet? Yea.
Because the majority of places shut the frick down. Yea
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:55 pm to Privateer 2007
NYC is still relatively locked down right? Where's the numbers btw?
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:56 pm to hendersonshands
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I'm not sure what's driving your vaccine skepticism, but there are 5 vaccines around the world in phase 3 already, with many more soon reaching that threshold. Oxford vaccine could potentially be given emergency authorization in 2 months. There's a chance these vaccines fail in phase 3, but you gotta be pretty pessimistic to believe that none will work.
Sounds awesome. Hope we do get an effective vaccine so this lockdown horseshite can end.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:57 pm to Privateer 2007
Not sure where you got 40 million from, but even if that is accurate, it took us roughly 8 months to get there. Another 8 months puts us into 2021.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:57 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Because the majority of places shut the frick down. Yea
F outta here with that. Things have been up and running for the most part. And to be honest, most didn't follow the lockdown restrictions anyway. Much like they aren't following the mask mandates. So yea.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:58 pm to WDE24
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no linked data
Look at all the charts on worldometers. worldometers Covid US
NY, NJ, Spain, Sweden, Italy, Germany etc.
All look similar.
As far as "cases" those aren't a good metric. Most aren't caught. While a portion are probably bullshite deaths are a good metric.
Plus, who cares if healthy ppl get infected and don't pass to frail ppl who die?
Peak near 1,000/day.
Now just a few.
Come on man.
It's basically over for them.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:59 pm to TruBrew
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And to be honest, most didn't follow the lockdown restrictions anyway. Much like they aren't following the mask mandates. So yea.
false. that’s a lie
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 6:02 pm
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