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Trumps chances of winning re-election are very small - re Rallies (analysis)

Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:05 am
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:05 am
Pre Covid and Floyd his polling was about as perfect as you could ask for an incumbent President coming into election year.

The economy was booming and he had a great compelling message to all minorities with the low unemployment rate. Joe is Joe and is a deeply flawed and terrible candidate.

Now Post Covid/Floyd his number are in the water. Still plenty of time to make up that I don’t disagree with.

But right now his base and the inevitable swing voters need to see his messaging. Trump on the offensive campaign mode.
I thought his speech in Tulsa was great (sans the flag burner comment). He attacked Joe in every way.

But it’s not enough NOBODY is talking about what he said about Joe.

In order to change that he needs more rallies. Needs to shift the narrative.

The biggest problem though:

In the month of June in 2016 he held 10 presidential rallies. (Across various swing states)
- he will only have 1 this month.... (Tulsa)

In the months of June and August he held 37 rallies

In the months of Sept and Oct he held 90 rallies

He outworked and out campaigned Hillary easily. There is still plenty of time but my fear is he won’t even be able to 3/4 of the amount of rallies he did in 2016.

It’s disappointed but so far his campaign hasn’t announced any future rallies and thus we, his supporters, spend every day looking at rioters and protesters destroying historical monuments, an economy in the dump, states potentially re-shutting down again, no sports potentially etc.

If he doesn’t schedule or do the amount of rallies he did in 2016 he won’t be able to shift the narrative to Joe which is the ONLY chance he has to win.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 10:09 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:06 am to
Oh Cripes, not this shite again....
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:06 am to
You are one of the biggest downers on this board.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43727 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:06 am to
Step 1: learn to spell rally
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
43849 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:07 am to
I guess it's a good thing that the election is still over 4 months away. That's still an eternity in an election year.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:08 am to
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But right now his base and the inevitable swing voters need to see his messaging.


And it needs to be messing that shows as clear a contrast as possible between Trump and the loony nut jobs that own Joe Biden.

None of that mixed messaging crap that whining about Joe Biden being too tough on crime in the Senate while running Trump as the strong law and order candidate.

The speech at the Tulsa rally was a great start towards disowning that stupid strategy and he needs to double down on it.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43727 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:10 am to
You are too fixated on a rally.

His approval numbers are better than Obama at the same point in his presidency, and he's running against a much weaker candidate with much less money this time. Add to that, he no longer has the entire intelligence community and half of the EU trying to sabotage his candidacy.

He's in the catbird seat, and if the economy rebounds as it appears it will, he'll be unstoppable come november. Biden inspires no one.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 10:13 am
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:10 am to
quote:


And it needs to be messing that shows as clear a contrast as possible between Trump and the loony nut jobs that own Joe Biden.

None of that mixed messaging crap that whining about Joe Biden being too tough on crime in the Senate while running Trump as the strong law and order candidate.

The speech at the Tulsa rally was a great start towards disowning that stupid strategy and he needs to double down on it.



I agree with Covid it doesn’t look like he’ll get to have any rallies at all though. Makes it difficult to get that messaging across unless he decides to do fire side chats in the Oval Office every week repeating that same speech.
Posted by 93and99
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Magician2



Weirdo !
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:10 am to
Good grief
Posted by wallowinit
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:11 am to
concern troll noted
Posted by walley tux
DFW
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:11 am to
joe biden's last rally



i'm just curious swammy what are we to make of that?
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:13 am to
Joes rallies will look like that from here until November but the kicker is his campaign doesn’t want him in the spotlight. Trump needs the rallies and the spotlight.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43727 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:15 am to
You are just making shite up.

A 77year old dementia case doesn't need to campaign at all, but an incumbent with strong numbers has to have 90 fricking rallies to win? Seek help.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
10487 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:18 am to
Bernie had much bigger rallies in the primaries than Joe. It didn't matter. I think he thinks it won't matter for him.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:18 am to
1) DNC/RNC
2) His Rallies (which he achieved record viewerships at home for save for his pandemic press conferences)
3) Debate 3 times
4) (And most importantly) Point out how fricking insane the Left has become.

That's how he wins. His rallies need to be shorter and more concise. No more Kung Flu or prosecuting burning of the flag nonsense. The DNC is going to be a total shite show this year, and Trump is going to kill Biden in the debates. He needs to keep separating 2016 Biden from 2020 Biden. He needs to keep going after the squad and start talking more shite about Nancy Pelosi. Every campaign ad should end with the following.



If he does this he can win. He's down now, but Biden is going to have to leave that basement eventually. Keep a more concise message on what he said at Tulsa (minus the frick ups) and I think he will win, he's just got to stay on message and stop being divisive though.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:18 am to
quote:


You are just making shite up.

A 77year old dementia case doesn't need to campaign at all, but an incumbent with strong numbers has to have 90 fricking rallies to win? Seek help.


I never said Joe doesn’t need to campaign. He WONT campaign.

Trumps numbers aren’t strong right now. He needs 90 + rallies.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156451 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:19 am to
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It’s disappointed but so far his campaign hasn’t announced any future rallies and thus we, his supporters, spend every day looking at rioters and protesters destroying historical monuments, an economy in the dump, states potentially re-shutting down again, no sports potentially etc.

If he doesn’t schedule or do the amount of rallies he did in 2016 he won’t be able to shift the narrative to Joe which is the ONLY chance he has to win.
Trump supporters including independents are wide awake. The number of Trump rallies is not the all get out of recovery. Most Presidents would be toast after everything that has happened to Trump.

Why do you post this trifling crap? Those with common sense want Trump for the economy alone. The country has been shut down for 5 months. The media rules, no matter what Trump does or doesn't do they will say Biden is winning.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43727 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:20 am to
Thats joes biggest problem. Bernie inspired the LEAST likely of voters. You think Bernie bros and blacks are going to make it a point to turn out for that old corpse?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156451 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:22 am to
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Trumps numbers aren’t strong right now. He needs 90 + rallies.
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