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The Alabama NAACP has released their list of demands for police reform in the state
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:02 am
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:02 am
What does the OT think about this list of demands? Some seem reasonable, some of it is clearly already being done, some of it, well...let's just say it seems a bit slanted.
1. Create a Citizens Review Board, Police Trial Board, or Accountability Review Board for the public to have permanent presence/seats and have subpoena power.
2. Release all body camera, citizens, and business camera footage; and 911 call audio to public.
3. Immediately release the names of all officers, supervisors involved in all shootings.
4. Release and/or create Standard Operating Procedures (SOP)s:
-To de-escalate conflict. with person with weapon present and/or drawn
-To clarify the “Shoot to Kill” or “Shoot to Injure” decisions
-To remove corrupt officers
-To de-escalate conflict of excessive force situations
-To provide medical attention for shot or injured suspects
-To test officers in shooting for alcohol and chemical substance
5.Every minority shooting requires an elevated level of investigation within the city, county, state, national law enforcement.
6. Increase the use of special prosecutors when potential hate crimes are present.
7. Implement implicit bias training for interacting with persons of color to include racial sensitivity, diversity training, and de-escalation strategies.
8.Enhance the collection of data on fatalities involving police officers.
9.Discourage so called “citizen’s arrest” or escalating or confronting acts within the community.
10.Interact and team up with the NAACP and other organizations that promote public safety and good citizenship of the public
LINK
*Editied to provide link to local news story.*
1. Create a Citizens Review Board, Police Trial Board, or Accountability Review Board for the public to have permanent presence/seats and have subpoena power.
2. Release all body camera, citizens, and business camera footage; and 911 call audio to public.
3. Immediately release the names of all officers, supervisors involved in all shootings.
4. Release and/or create Standard Operating Procedures (SOP)s:
-To de-escalate conflict. with person with weapon present and/or drawn
-To clarify the “Shoot to Kill” or “Shoot to Injure” decisions
-To remove corrupt officers
-To de-escalate conflict of excessive force situations
-To provide medical attention for shot or injured suspects
-To test officers in shooting for alcohol and chemical substance
5.Every minority shooting requires an elevated level of investigation within the city, county, state, national law enforcement.
6. Increase the use of special prosecutors when potential hate crimes are present.
7. Implement implicit bias training for interacting with persons of color to include racial sensitivity, diversity training, and de-escalation strategies.
8.Enhance the collection of data on fatalities involving police officers.
9.Discourage so called “citizen’s arrest” or escalating or confronting acts within the community.
10.Interact and team up with the NAACP and other organizations that promote public safety and good citizenship of the public
LINK
*Editied to provide link to local news story.*
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 11:28 am
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Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:04 am to LegendInMyMind
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Every minority shooting requires an elevated level of investigation within the city, county, state, national law enforcement.
Does this include minorities shot by minority officers? My guess is no.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:04 am to LegendInMyMind
quote:
“Shoot to Injure” decisions
This is a fricking farce
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:04 am to LegendInMyMind
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3. Immediately release the names of all officers, supervisors involved in all shootings.
Absolutely not
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:05 am to LegendInMyMind
The sad thing is 90% of that list is fine and could have come from a libertarian civil rights organization.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:05 am to LegendInMyMind
Meh mostly ok.
Not sure if they understand that shoot to injure isn’t really an option.
Would we ever consider use of the old billy clubs or more aggressive use of rubber bullets to get criminals to calm the frick down in certain situations. LOL
Not sure if they understand that shoot to injure isn’t really an option.
Would we ever consider use of the old billy clubs or more aggressive use of rubber bullets to get criminals to calm the frick down in certain situations. LOL
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:05 am to LegendInMyMind
We don't negotiate with terrorists
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:05 am to LegendInMyMind
quote:All of that sounds fine except for this one.
3. Immediately release the names of all officers, supervisors involved in all shootings.
Not a good idea to facilitate people overreacting & bringing about vigilante "justice" before they have all the facts.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:05 am to LegendInMyMind
3 and 5 are bad ideas. The rest is workable.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 11:06 am
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:06 am to LegendInMyMind
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8.Enhance the collection of data on fatalities involving police officers.
They might want to reconsider this one.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:06 am to LegendInMyMind
quote:non-starter
3. Immediately release the names of all officers, supervisors involved in all shootings.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:06 am to LegendInMyMind
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8.Enhance the collection of data on fatalities involving police officers.
I'd go a step further and enhance the collection of data for all/most police interactions.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 11:08 am
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:06 am to frankthetank
quote:Nope, we just arm them
We don't negotiate with terrorists
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:07 am to Tiguar
quote:
The sad thing is 90% of that list is fine and could have come from a libertarian civil rights organization.
Do you want to know a secret?
Most of that list is already being done in one way or another.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:08 am to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:08 am to LegendInMyMind
quote:
Interact and team up with the NAACP and other organizations that promote public safety and good citizenship of the public
Sigh
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:09 am to LegendInMyMind
#1- Just obey the police
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:09 am to LegendInMyMind
Had me until "Shoot to Injure"
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:09 am to frankthetank
quote:
We don't negotiate with terrorists
Well, you didn’t negotiate with them before, either.
Makes me think that you’re just disingenuous and using your excuse du jour.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:10 am to themachinist
Or you know, quit committing crimes. LOL
That would solve 99.9% of the issues
That would solve 99.9% of the issues
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