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re: We are witnessing the collapse of the American system.

Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by aujhw1
Member since May 2020
43 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:56 pm to
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This terminology is a huge part of the problem. Americans should not be divided by phrases and words but instead be viewed as a collective people. The Leftist politicians Have brewed this divisiveness and the general public has played along with it.


I would say that isn’t a left right issue. That division is in our constitution. It is foundational. We had race based chattel slavery before we were even a country. You can read any number of individual experiences about people being treated differently and negatively because they are black. You can find any number of studies that show race often plays a role in how people are treated in the criminal justice system and in a negative way. That is the reality. To blame the left or a politician doesn’t a knowledge the history or the ample evidence about what is happening today.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:54 pm to
Slavery ended over150 years ago. Irrelevant to 2020.

Blacks are afforded more opportunities via government and private institutional social engineering than any other race in America. In 2020.

The problem is that less than half of black Americans have embraced the advantages handed to them on a silver platter. Maybe the perpetual victim hood blacks should observe and learn from the blacks who have managed to be successful in upward mobility. We could have a much better society within a generation if they would only follow that example.

Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
7046 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:55 pm to
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I would say that isn’t a left right issue. That division is in our constitution. It is foundational. We had race based chattel slavery before we were even a country.

Our Constitution helped lay the foundation for the world to get rid of slavery. Slavery existed in pre-biblical times worldwide. The founders knew it would take generations to get rid of an institution that has been around as long as man himself, and they gave us the tools to do it with in the Constitution.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30609 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 5:02 pm to
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I think that Black Lives Matter seek to set up their own society. They want to build, operate and police their own communities by their cultural standards.

What I see more than anything is a realization by BLM that integration is a failure. I believe that BLM and many whites can find common ground and work to help get them what they want.
I agree with your concept and believe it's doable, UNLESS the liberal progressive whites of the country try to sabotage it.
It's damn sure worth exploring.
Posted by aujhw1
Member since May 2020
43 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:48 pm to
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^Introducing aujhw1, one of the biggest libtards message board posters anywhere who helped get Toomer's Corner shut down with constant bitch and whining to the mods. Have fun with this idiot. LOL


Ha ha I see you still are hurling silly insults. I probably talked to the moderators maybe a handful of times in 16 years of posting there. I didn’t get that board shut down.
Posted by highbooost
Dayton, OH
Member since Sep 2016
1341 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:54 pm to
Interesting thread, I was thinking about this the other day. I wish one state would become a red state and red state only, I would gladly move to secure a position in a red state. I mean it mashes sense. Vote states can do what they want.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:56 pm to
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Right now the left demands things that are irrational. They want no police but also a police state.
This. They want an authoritarian government. How do they thing their ideal government works? How will it force its agenda on others? An authoritarian government will work on all us the way it worked on George Floyd.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6970 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:57 pm to
When Texas secedes, I have my built in Green Card. Birth Certificate says "Laredo, Texas."
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3978 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:00 pm to
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Lsupimp


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We have moved away from the Rule of Law and being a high trust society into the tech- driven Leftist Idiocracy version of America. Governance by The Rule of Our Worst Passions . Could be the FBI, could be the IRS, could be the intelligence community, could be Twitter, could be a mob of angry rioters. To them the HIGHEST organizing principle is whatever particular passion they feel on any given day. And the highest virtues are grievance and punishment.


This is very well written.
Posted by aujhw1
Member since May 2020
43 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:02 pm to
At first slavery was baked into the constitution. It contradicted our founding ideals and many from the founding generation knew it was wrong. Saying there were other forms of slavery downplays there very specific kind of race based chattel slavery practiced here.

A race of people was singled out based on their color. They were told that their offspring and generations after were never to be anything other than slaves. That is all you are good for.
Posted by aujhw1
Member since May 2020
43 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:06 pm to
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Slavery ended over150 years ago. Irrelevant to 2020.

Blacks are afforded more opportunities via government and private institutional social engineering than any other race in America. In 2020.

The problem is that less than half of black Americans have embraced the advantages handed to them on a silver platter. Maybe the perpetual victim hood blacks should observe and learn from the blacks who have managed to be successful in upward mobility. We could have a much better society within a generation if they would only follow that example.


Nothing is handed to blacks on a sliver platter. There are all sorts of disparities in this country based on race. That is not to mention the ample evidence of prejudice and bias that black people face in this country from employment to traffic stops. Of course history is relevant to why things are the way they are. There is a whole history of race relations in this country. It isn’t particularly pretty.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:06 pm to
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And the highest virtues are grievance and punishment.
we must stop giving the offended and aggrieved all of the power. And stop placating those that want revenge for past racism not perpetrated by those alive today.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:11 pm to
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Nothing is handed to blacks on a sliver platter.
Guess what? No successful people of any color have anything given to them on a silver platter. If there was some secret success card for honkeys I missed it. I started college with less than $40. Fought and worked my arse off to make tuition every damn semester. Starting my own business... made that look like child's play.

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Of course history is relevant to why things are the way they are.
No. It isn't. And teh premise is silly. You want today's white people to be held accountable for things that happened 150 years ago. That's as stupid as thinking Black people today should be slaves because... you know... people of the same skin color did that almost two centrues ago.

Nothing better than "progressives" that are mired in 19th centry events.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 9:13 pm
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3978 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:13 pm to
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That is not to mention the ample evidence of prejudice and bias that black people face in this country from employment to traffic stops.


Oh frick off. Not a job out there for a major corporation a black candidate wouldn’t get before a white candidate with completely identical resumes. There’s no shortage of opportunity.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
18178 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:18 pm to
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In 2 weeks we'll be on to something else. The media will leave those places and head toward the next shiny object and those people will be left with the rubble in their cities.



You are correct. But these manufactured crises are growing ever more intense and our rights and civil liberties are ever more restricted.

We are just now crawling out from this insane “flatten-the-economy” lockdown only to be confronted with violent street protests and mob violence? It is terrifying to imagine what horrors are planned by our Lord and Masters when this latest crisis runs it’s course.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:23 pm to
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There’s no shortage of opportunity.
Oh there is.... just not where SJWs think. Try being a middle aged white man trying to get an entry level job in tech.

A good friend's father in law has been trying for months. Early 50s white male. He's well qualified and frankly talented from what I've seen of his work. It's hell.

No tech SJW is hiring that dude. He has virtually no chance of getting hired. SV hiring managers call this "justice". I call it prejudiced bigotry.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 9:25 pm
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3978 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:30 pm to
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Oh there is.... just not where SJWs think. Try being a middle aged white man trying to get an entry level job in tech.


Dude, I’ve been in the work force less than 3 years and I’ve already seen it firsthand and heard countless more stories like your buddy’s secondhand. It’s unfair, inherently racist, and it breeds nothing but resentment and contempt amongst employees.

So I don’t want to hear shite about lack of opportunity. That ain’t the problem.
Posted by aujhw1
Member since May 2020
43 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:05 am to
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Oh frick off. Not a job out there for a major corporation a black candidate wouldn’t get before a white candidate with completely identical resumes. There’s no shortage of opportunity.


There have been some really good studies in the past 15 years or so that look at the impact race has on employment opportunities. One shows the differences in how blacks and whites are treated in applying for lower income jobs. Ample evidence that being black is often a disadvantage. A pretty significant temp agency recently settled a lawsuit for discriminating on the basis of race as they acquiesced to requests by businesses not to send them black Employees.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9474 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:08 am to
No. We are witnessing the cleansing of the American system.
Posted by aujhw1
Member since May 2020
43 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:11 am to
There is ample evidence of racial bias today and that this prejudice still has an impact. History can tell us how we got here and how things have evolved. I agree not everyone has anything handed to them on a silver platter. But there is ample evidence that being black is still too often a disadvantage in this country. We have made some progress but there is still much to be made especially in the context of the criminal justice system.
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