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re: While you were social distancing, dams were failing in Michigan

Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:41 am to
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:41 am to
quote:

dams were failing in Michigan


Both dams have been functioning since the 1920's. Both failed on the same night - giving the power-hungry governor another State of Emergency.
And the legislature had recently refused to extend her COVID State of Emergency .

WOW! Lucky break for the tyrant!
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 9:44 am
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54464 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:42 am to
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Michigan State government is to blame.


First it was bad water in Detroit and now this. Michigan government seems to have a problem concerning water issues. To borrow a phrase from A River Runs Through It - they are haunted by waters.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
98955 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:47 am to
“Rust Belt” states are having problems because their infrastructure, including dams and plumbing, is literally rusting and falling apart.

The Flint problems, IIRC, were because the pipes were old and then they shed a bunch of lead when they were forced to change water sources. I believe the source changed because Flint wasn’t paying its damn bills.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
101155 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:48 am to
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WOW! Lucky break for the tyrant!


Her luck is exploding all over the state.
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8447 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:49 am to
Posted by CrazyCajunDoc
Manvel TX
Member since Jun 2004
37 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:50 am to
Gov. Whitmer also defunded infrastructure spending in the most recent budget. This despite running a campaign with it as a major cornerstone.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
124307 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:50 am to
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The energy commission (FERC), which regulates U.S. power generation, notified the dam's previous owner as far back as 1999 that it needed to increase capacity of the Edenville dam's spillways to prevent a significant flood from overcoming the structure.

FERC subsequently notified the dam's new owner, Boyce Hydro Power LLC, when the license transferred in 2004.

By June 2017, the commission cracked down, citing the owner's "longstanding failure to address the project’s inadequate spillway capacity at this high hazard dam."

"Thirteen years after acquiring the license for the project, the licensee has still not

increased spillway capacity, leaving the project in danger," wrote Jennifer Hill, director

division of Hydropower Administration and Compliance. "The spillway capacity deficiencies must be remedied in order to protect life, limb and property."


LINK

Flint potable water crisis and now this. This is what happens when Democrat leadership diverts state funds to their pet socialist projects and ignore critical infrastructure maintenance and upgrades.
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5359 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:53 am to
That state can't get anything right when it comes to water.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
124307 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:56 am to
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The Flint problems, IIRC, were because the pipes were old and then they shed a bunch of lead when they were forced to change water sources. I believe the source changed because Flint wasn’t paying its damn bills.



IIRC the new source of water had a slightly lower pH but nothing out of the range for typical drinking water. When the pH is lowered the ability to dissolve metals is greater. With the lower pH the old lead pipes and lead from lead soldered pipe started to leach increasing concentration of lead in the drinking water. Not good.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
98955 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:58 am to
The legend lives on
From the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gichigummi
Superior it’s said
Never gives up its dead
When the tales of November come early
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
124307 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:58 am to
It's hard to tell from that gif but the breach probably started by undermining the dam first then slowly eroded the dam away and the breach grew bigger.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
53798 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:58 am to
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Which level of government should be blamed? Or should the company be blamed?


Both. Company for failing. The government for allowing such failure to exist for 14 YEARS before they did something and not remediating the issues during that tenure.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
114076 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:04 am to
So do the people in Midland get to leave their homes or how does this work?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
57370 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Which level of government should be blamed? Or should the company be blamed?

quote:

Oversight of the dam falls under the responsibility of the Michigan Department of Natural Resources,


That one.

Govt contractors have a responsibility to deliver on their contracts, the govt must provide oversight and insure compliance when failure may have the town under water.

Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
80835 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:22 am to
quote:

The Flint problems, IIRC, were because the pipes were old and then they shed a bunch of lead when they were forced to change water sources. I believe the source changed because Flint wasn’t paying its damn bills.


Always thought that was a prime opportunity for Trump to connect with the black community there.
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