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Short summary of the “Flynn” situation?
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:52 am
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:52 am
My wife (does not follow politics) asked me what “This whole Flynn stuff is about” last night.
I tried to explain it to her but with each phrase she seemed more lost in the details. Is there a brief summary (not connected to my tin foil hat) that explains it?
I tried to explain it to her but with each phrase she seemed more lost in the details. Is there a brief summary (not connected to my tin foil hat) that explains it?
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:57 am to SECdragonmaster
Why you got to lay the question off on your wife? Oh and pics...
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 10:58 am
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:00 am to SECdragonmaster
flynn was among several people the obama administration was aware might be a security risk.
vp biden saw the list.
nothing else to it.
meanwhile the ny times is using foia to get trump emails which may prove he should be impeached.
trump campaign is attempting to besmirch biden with nothing burgers while trump is pleading with federal court to prevent his fraudulent and evasive tax returns from being used to send trump to.prison for his misdeeds prior to presidency.
trump is looking at two guilty pleas while pretending biden is implicated in, oh no! looking at a list.
vp biden saw the list.
nothing else to it.
meanwhile the ny times is using foia to get trump emails which may prove he should be impeached.
trump campaign is attempting to besmirch biden with nothing burgers while trump is pleading with federal court to prevent his fraudulent and evasive tax returns from being used to send trump to.prison for his misdeeds prior to presidency.
trump is looking at two guilty pleas while pretending biden is implicated in, oh no! looking at a list.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:04 am to CelticDog
Well that’s the retarded and dishonest version for sure
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:04 am to CelticDog
Bless your heart, CelticDog.
You never stop being you.
You never stop being you.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:04 am to CelticDog
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meanwhile the ny times is using foia to get trump emails which may prove he should be impeached.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:06 am to CelticDog
(no message)
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:09 am to SECdragonmaster
GumboPot did great work here summarizing it.
LINK
ETA, Strzok and Page also had texts that Obama wanted to know everything, the White House is running this, needing an insurance policy if Trump won, etc.
LINK
ETA, Strzok and Page also had texts that Obama wanted to know everything, the White House is running this, needing an insurance policy if Trump won, etc.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 11:22 am
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:12 am to SECdragonmaster
This is what I've got so far, so lets summarize:
1. General Mike Flynn goes on vacation to the Dominican Republic the last week of December 2016.
2. Obama places sanctions on Russia on 12/29/2016 and Russian diplomats are kicked out of the U.S. including Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak.
3. Obama issues a order under FISA regs to surveil Russian diplomats though our intelligence services. This order does not require a warrant throught the FISC if it comes from the POTUS.
4. Upon being sent home Kislyak calls Mike Flynn the national security advisor while on vacation in the Dominican Republic, the same day 12/29/2016. (I wonder if he was encouraged to call?...hmmmm). It sure would be easy to tap this call from the U.S. to Flynn's cell phone on unsecured comms.
5. IC records the call (which we currently have no evidence of). Because we have no evidence of the electronically recorded call part of our IC includes Five Eyes partner Britain and their spy agency GHCQ (equivalent to the NSA in the U.S.). GHCQ records the call, makes a transcript and forwards the transcript to the FBI.
6. The FBI Strzok and another agent ambushes Mike Flynn after the Trump Administration takes the White House and they interview him about he call with Kislyak. The initial form 302 indicated that Flynn's account of the call was consistent with the transcript of the call. That's probably why the original 302 is lost.
7. The FBI was about to drop the Flynn investigation but at the last minuet a call was made from the 7th floor of the Hoover building (Comey) and investigation continued.
8. Mueller took it from the FBI once the special counsel was formed.
9. Mueller blackmailed Flynn into pleading guilty to lying to FBI agents by threatening his son with FARA violations which are very easy to commit when registering and filling out FARA forms. Fail to dot an 'i" can lead to a violation. They are never investigated unless the FBI has a vendetta against you.
10. Flynn plead guilty to lying to avoid the prospect of his son being investigated by the Feds and making his life a living hell when he just got married and his wife is about to have a baby.
You know the rest of the story.
The problem with all of this is I don't see any laws broken by Obama. I see a lot of abuse of power but there is no law against abuse of power.
1. General Mike Flynn goes on vacation to the Dominican Republic the last week of December 2016.
2. Obama places sanctions on Russia on 12/29/2016 and Russian diplomats are kicked out of the U.S. including Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak.
3. Obama issues a order under FISA regs to surveil Russian diplomats though our intelligence services. This order does not require a warrant throught the FISC if it comes from the POTUS.
4. Upon being sent home Kislyak calls Mike Flynn the national security advisor while on vacation in the Dominican Republic, the same day 12/29/2016. (I wonder if he was encouraged to call?...hmmmm). It sure would be easy to tap this call from the U.S. to Flynn's cell phone on unsecured comms.
5. IC records the call (which we currently have no evidence of). Because we have no evidence of the electronically recorded call part of our IC includes Five Eyes partner Britain and their spy agency GHCQ (equivalent to the NSA in the U.S.). GHCQ records the call, makes a transcript and forwards the transcript to the FBI.
6. The FBI Strzok and another agent ambushes Mike Flynn after the Trump Administration takes the White House and they interview him about he call with Kislyak. The initial form 302 indicated that Flynn's account of the call was consistent with the transcript of the call. That's probably why the original 302 is lost.
7. The FBI was about to drop the Flynn investigation but at the last minuet a call was made from the 7th floor of the Hoover building (Comey) and investigation continued.
8. Mueller took it from the FBI once the special counsel was formed.
9. Mueller blackmailed Flynn into pleading guilty to lying to FBI agents by threatening his son with FARA violations which are very easy to commit when registering and filling out FARA forms. Fail to dot an 'i" can lead to a violation. They are never investigated unless the FBI has a vendetta against you.
10. Flynn plead guilty to lying to avoid the prospect of his son being investigated by the Feds and making his life a living hell when he just got married and his wife is about to have a baby.
You know the rest of the story.
The problem with all of this is I don't see any laws broken by Obama. I see a lot of abuse of power but there is no law against abuse of power.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:20 am to Bunk Moreland
That is a good link. Thank you. It will help her understand.
I am quite frustrated with her right now. I married her for her intelligence and not for her below average and homely appearance.
Normally, she is much more intelligent and informed on these issues.
Here is a picture of my wife (while we were in residency) for your help.
Don’t show this picture to anyone else.
I am quite frustrated with her right now. I married her for her intelligence and not for her below average and homely appearance.
Normally, she is much more intelligent and informed on these issues.
Here is a picture of my wife (while we were in residency) for your help.
Don’t show this picture to anyone else.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:24 am to CelticDog
Jesus , thats NEXT LEVEL Blue Church hackery. What a complete totalitarian shite stain you are. No shame, no honor.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:27 am to GumboPot
GumboPot, this is a very good 20K foot summary. One suggestion: I would swap #6 & #7 as I think that would be chronologically more accurate.
Another thing that has become so incredibly important and possibly not highlighted enough is the 302 frickery. In a false statement case, it is the central piece of evidence and the record of the alleged false statement.
Here, that critical piece of evidence was, itself, tampered with, falsified and/or destroyed- plus, Mueller investigators obstructed and hid that exculpatory information from Flynn's original attorneys.
Another thing that has become so incredibly important and possibly not highlighted enough is the 302 frickery. In a false statement case, it is the central piece of evidence and the record of the alleged false statement.
Here, that critical piece of evidence was, itself, tampered with, falsified and/or destroyed- plus, Mueller investigators obstructed and hid that exculpatory information from Flynn's original attorneys.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:35 am to CelticDog
quote:
flynn was among several people the obama administration was aware might be a security risk.
vp biden saw the list.
nothing else to it.
meanwhile the ny times is using foia to get trump emails which may prove he should be impeached.
trump campaign is attempting to besmirch biden with nothing burgers while trump is pleading with federal court to prevent his fraudulent and evasive tax returns from being used to send trump to.prison for his misdeeds prior to presidency.
trump is looking at two guilty pleas while pretending biden is implicated in, oh no! looking at a list.
All of this is proof that Otto is paid opposition by Chicken. It’s clear chicken is paying this guy to post crap like that.
Because there is NO WAY anyone can be this stupid and actually make it through a day without accidentally killing himself with a spatula or running over himself with a lawnmower or something.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:56 am to PhDoogan
Don’t forget that while unmasking Flynn over the phone calls is perfectly legal, leaking this classified information is a felony. One of the unmaskers or their staff passed the information to journalists seemingly to hurt a political rival.
As we leaned from the impeachment hearings, the Democrats believe that using the office to hurt political rivals is the worst possible thing ever. Even when there is obviously a reason to investigate.
Of coarse the FBI agents the interviewed Flynn said he was honest until Page and Slease changed the 302.
As we leaned from the impeachment hearings, the Democrats believe that using the office to hurt political rivals is the worst possible thing ever. Even when there is obviously a reason to investigate.
Of coarse the FBI agents the interviewed Flynn said he was honest until Page and Slease changed the 302.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:03 pm to GumboPot
I do. Seditious Conspiracy. The goal was to get Flynn out of the way so as to remove Trump. Flynn was in a position to warn Trump as to the existence of Crossfire Hurricane, which we all know was likely not a legal investigation,it should never have been opened.
Obama was a participant and may have hatched the entire scheme.
Obama was a participant and may have hatched the entire scheme.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:18 pm to CelticDog
It must be tough being you... condolences
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:36 pm to GetmorewithLes
quote:
It must be tough being you... condolences
Nah. He’s the most Bliss MFer on this site.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:39 pm to antibarner
quote:
I do. Seditious Conspiracy. The goal was to get Flynn out of the way so as to remove Trump. Flynn was in a position to warn Trump as to the existence of Crossfire Hurricane, which we all know was likely not a legal investigation,it should never have been opened.
Obama was a participant and may have hatched the entire scheme.
I agree with you 100%. However getting me to agree and prosecuting a legal case to convince a jury in DC or NOVA to convict are worlds apart.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:40 pm to CelticDog
How wrong have you been about things during the last 3 years?
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