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Hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit, more deaths
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:45 pm
quote:
Malaria drug hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit in a large study of its use at U.S. veterans hospitals, researchers say.
Hydroxychloroquine has garnered global attention during the coronavirus pandemic, most notably from President Trump, who touted it as a potential treatment.
The research, which was published in the medRxiv online depository, evaluated data from 368 COVID-19 patients.
quote:
“We performed a retrospective analysis of data from patients hospitalized with confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection in all United States Veterans Health Administration medical centers until April 11, 2020,” the researchers explained. Some 97 patients had been treated with just hydroxycholoroquine, 113 were treated with hydroxycholoroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin and 158 received “standard supportive management” for COVID-19.
quote:
The two primary outcomes analyzed in the study were death and the need for ventilation.
About 28 percent who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11 percent of those getting routine care alone. About 22 percent of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died too, but the difference between that group and usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival.
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Researchers did not track side effects but noted hints that hydroxychloroquine might have damaged other organs. The drug has long been known to have potentially serious side effects, including altering the heartbeat in a way that could lead to sudden death.
Earlier this month, scientists in Brazil stopped part of a hydroxychloroquine study after heart rhythm problems developed in one-quarter of people given the higher of two doses being tested.
Fox News link
I must admit I was wrong about this, very concerning study here.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 5:07 pm
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Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:47 pm to Man With A Plan
Looks like remdesivir might be more promising.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:47 pm to Man With A Plan
quote:
Hydroxychloroquine made no difference in the need for a breathing machine, either.
“In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19,” the researchers said. “An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs.”
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:48 pm to Man With A Plan
Fake news...how much given? When given?
Facts to shut up.
Facts to shut up.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:49 pm to Powerman
quote:Hope so, the way this virus mutates, and the fact we have no immunity means vaccines probably won't be possible. I am convinced this was a Chinese bio weapon created in a lab.
Looks like remdesivir might be more promising.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:49 pm to Man With A Plan
It was worth a shot to try
Luckily we are seeing other drugs get positive results
Luckily we are seeing other drugs get positive results
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:The study found it leads to more deaths, so I would try something else.
It was worth a shot to try
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:51 pm to Man With A Plan
garbage study, implicit bias given the retrospective nature
brazilian study showed a significantly reduced risk of hospitalization if given to outpatients in the first 7 days
brazilian study showed a significantly reduced risk of hospitalization if given to outpatients in the first 7 days
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:51 pm to Man With A Plan
Oh so all of the favorable reports from other tests are undone by one
smells like bullshite
smells like bullshite
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:52 pm to gthog61
quote:
smells like bullshite
because it is
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:52 pm to Man With A Plan
Fake News = This makes my ears hurt
Its a lazy response these days .....really lazy
Its a lazy response these days .....really lazy
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:52 pm to Man With A Plan
It's a media driven lie designed to make the president of the United states look like a fool.
The drug works. The French said so and so did a podiatrist on you-tube. But when you think about it, it doesn't really need to work because it's all one big hoax designed to get President Trump out of office. I saw a tweet that said so and I also heard it in talk radio.
The drug works. The French said so and so did a podiatrist on you-tube. But when you think about it, it doesn't really need to work because it's all one big hoax designed to get President Trump out of office. I saw a tweet that said so and I also heard it in talk radio.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:52 pm to Tmcgin
Something sounds fricky.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:52 pm to Man With A Plan
What are you babbling about?
It would have been negligent not to try this when you had doctors all over the world reporting positive results
It would have been negligent not to try this when you had doctors all over the world reporting positive results
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:55 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:
It's a media driven lie designed to make the president of the United states look like a fool.
The drug works. The French said so and so did a podiatrist on you-tube. But when you think about it, it doesn't really need to work because it's all one big hoax designed to get President Trump out of office. I saw a tweet that said so and I also heard it in talk radio.
Imagine being *giddy* that a drug that was showing anecdotal promise ended up being not as effective as thought.
You have pretty severe problems if this makes you happy.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:55 pm to Man With A Plan
muh anedoctal evidence
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:55 pm to Man With A Plan
Acosta is about to lead the lynch mob to the White House once he gets wind of this.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:55 pm to Man With A Plan
Funny how hydro talk just kind of went away.
Go figure.
Seriously though, those being treated with it for legit reasons are undoubtedly thankful trump isn't pushing it anymore.
Go figure.
Seriously though, those being treated with it for legit reasons are undoubtedly thankful trump isn't pushing it anymore.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:55 pm to Tiguar
quote:all the studies are showing this
brazilian study showed a significantly reduced risk of hospitalization if given to outpatients in the first 7 days
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:56 pm to Man With A Plan
So more than twice as many people died taking harmless drugs compared to taking no drugs at all?
And that makes sense why exactly?
Sounds sketchy as frick
And that makes sense why exactly?
Sounds sketchy as frick
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