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OT PHOTOGRAPHERS: Sony, Canon, or Nikon? Help me pick a new camera

Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:07 am
Posted by Vincent van Goat
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:07 am
I run a little art biz as a side gig. Wanting to get a dslr or mirrorless to up my production value. Plus I like taking pictures when I travel and seem to have an eye for it. I'd want to be able to video and also get quality screen grabs from the video. Bonus if I can shoot in JPEG and RAW.

Had been previously using iPhone 11, but want to join the big leagues.

Budget is $1000-$1500. Maybe a little more if necessary.

Thanks



This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Scoob
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Member since Jun 2009
22771 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:24 am to
Personally, I'd recommend the Sony A7 family.

From your choices listed, I'd go Nikon. Be sure to grab a model with full lens compatibility. By that, I mean:

Some brands have changed mounts over the years, some have kept the same.

Nikon and Pentax, I believe, have kept the same mount throughout their history, and you can grab used old prime lenses for reasonable. Canon changed several times, so lots of old glass gets abandoned.

Sony took over Minolta, and kept the Maxxum mount for their full dslrs.

I use Olympus, and have adapters and lots of "orphan" prime lenses. These are manual lenses, not AF. But if you're shooting precise, you want to manually focus. And going orphan route can save tons of cash- I have an entire lineup of Minolta Rokkor prime lenses for under $300 total.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294387 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:37 am to
Fuji xt30 w/lens

Best new sub $1,000 kit ups can get.
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:38 am to
quote:

Personally, I'd recommend the Sony A7 family.


I second that and I’m a photographer that carries a Canon.

To the OP, for $1000, you gonna get shite as far as new. I would look into buying used. I have two cameras, and four lenses. That’s nearly $7000 in equipment, and I don’t have shite compared to some stuff I see guys carrying. If you want to get into photography, buy nice, high dollar, used equipment in either Canon or Nikon.
If you want to just take garden variety pictures, go with a new Sony mirrorless. Now, the A7 is a little expensive, but the lower quality Sony cameras run about $1000.
A camera and lens, no matter the cost, don’t take good photographs. A good, trained photographer that knows his equipment takes good photographs. A higher dollar camera doesn’t take better images than a lower price camera, it just allows you to do much more with it.
Posted by Pico de Gallo
Member since Aug 2016
1894 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:46 am to
Be careful photographing LSU, their compliance department will come after you.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:52 am to
Nikon Z 7

Cannon isnt what it used to be.


Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51398 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:54 am to
quote:


Had been previously using iPhone 11, but want to join the big

Get a Google pixel 4Xl
Posted by PhantomMenace
Member since Oct 2017
1946 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:15 am to
Canon 5D Mkiii if you want a very high quality DSLR that also shoots video. Originally about $4500 new (body only), then Canon produced the Mkiv about 5 years ago, so you can likely get a pretty good used iii for $1000 to $1200.

I would suggest shopping B&H Photo in New York as they refurbish and rate the quality of used cameras. One drawback of buying elsewhere is that you cannot tell the shutter count on this model without being a rocket scientist and hooking up with Canon. B&H will tell you the shutter counts and relative condition, and prices range accordingly. They are rated 150k snaps but often will go well over 200k. The Mkiii body is also made of titanium alloy so is virtually indestructible if a little on the heavy side. There may be a glut of used cameras available as the virus thing plays out and would-be photographers trade their cameras for cash (or in NY they die and their heirs do).

Caveat: It should use most if not all Canon EF lenses, but NOT the EFS (S for short) lenses.

If you just want to get a DSLR to learn, check with local camera clubs to see if anyone may have gear they want to sell.
Posted by Vincent van Goat
Member since Feb 2019
38 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:32 pm to
bump
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14888 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:35 pm to
Nikon is hard to beat. But they're in danger of going under.

You might want to stick with Canon or Pentax. Not sure about the sony's. I think they mutated from Minolta in the dsl arena.

Additionally Canon is usually made in Japan which is a plus.
Nikons non high end stuff is usually made in Thailand. Still quality gear.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Shotgun Willie
Member since Apr 2016
4166 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:36 pm to
Sony A7iii. I had nikon for years, finally switched and won't be going back. Love it for photos and video.
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:40 pm to
I was going to recommend Sony also. I love the video my a7s2 creates and would love a a7r3 if not for the fact that I don't really shoot stills. IMO, Sony is way ahead of the others in mirrorless photography.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31279 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:45 pm to
Pick one brand and stick with it. Wife and my dad both have Nikon. Dad has had nikons going back to the early 90s with 35mm. The mounting and servo systems are the same so he can still use lenses on his new dslrs.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

previously using iPhone 11


I was looking at DSLR's, but I keep finding myself drawn to the premium point and shoot cameras such as the Sony RX100 line. I don't really feel the need for a long telephoto lens, so I don't see any disadvantages. I like the compact size, and remember the pain in the arse it was packing a huge SLR camera everywhere.




This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94672 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:53 pm to
I'm a Canon guy and you can get a mirrorless Canon right now - but if you want Canon, I would wait a little while longer.

I would strongly consider something in the Sony A7 family of mirrorless - the only knock is they've released so many in just a couple of years you may have to sort through what is going to be the best feature and capability to cost ratio choice for your specific needs.

I'm sure the Nikons are fine, but Sony has been a gamechanger with their "all in" approach to mirrorless.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94672 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

I was looking at DSLR's, but I keep finding myself drawn to the premium point and shoot cameras such as the Sony RX100 line.


Frankly, I don't see the benefit of getting a point and shoot when you're likely carrying as good a camera around with your phone.

Yes, marginally better lens and purpose built processing, but certainly if you have a flagship phone that is less than 3 or 4 years old, you've already got a competent P&S camera.

The value in spending money on a "good" camera at this stage is the lenses, which is why we're suggesting mirrorless - it is the future and if you go mirrorless, regardless of ecosystem, it will be the most future-proof solution possible. It is going to be much easier to convert from one lens system to another if they are all mirrorless because the whole sensor clearance issue is all but gone. I think there are already quality third party mounts for Sony to Canon/Canon to Sony mirrorless systems (don't quote me, though).

Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85787 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 1:10 pm to
Fuji -
Pros - Best JPGs in the mirrorless (perhaps beyond) business, great looking compact systems that make you want to take pictures and make you look more like an old school camera enthusiast than a soccer mom or wannabe pro. Among the best build quality lenses for mirrorless systems (if not the best) until you get to a much higher price range, and generally at a smaller size than FF equiv. Controversial, but IMO Fuji lens magic is pretty real. Very good to excellent ergonomics (for most).

Cons - Crop sensor, if you care about that (most probably shouldn't, but it's a fair point in price comparisons), very few third party lens options, some controversial design variations between models that can leave you feeling "stuck" and having to make sacrifices. AF has lagged Sony, but is pretty close now.

Sony -
Pros - Full featured, nice bodies. Good enough build quality, and fairly compact. Leading edge of the mirrorless tech. Lots of shooters, amateur and pro alike, so plenty of support/accessories, etc. Great autofocus tech.

Cons - Shitty baseline lenses, arguably lower build quality than competitors, inferior handling according to most (though debatable/personal opinion obviously a big factor here).

Canon and Nikon both have impressive mirrorless options, but I'll leave assessments to others. I was a Nikon shooter for film/DSLR so I'm fond of Nikon. But if I left Fuji it'd probably be for Sony, at least at this stage.
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22876 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 1:10 pm to
Sony, Nikon, Canon, in that order.
Besides, I’d work on always improving composition skills. It’s that, more that what camera you use, that the pros all swear makes the biggest difference in photo quality.
Next, post-processing apps can work magic on meh images.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
61998 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 1:12 pm to
Sony
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85787 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 1:17 pm to
I had a Sony RX 100. It was a good camera and I'm sure the line is still great. But I don't really see the point now. I think it can take better photos than your phone, but the RX100 7 is like 1200+, which I just don't really get.

For 1200 bucks you can get a lightly used Fuji X100V, which is 10x more interesting and will be much more enjoyable to use if you want a very compact, take-everywhere camera. Or if you don't want fixed length, you can get a Fuji X-E3 or XT30 (with the best kit lens in the industry) for about that much/less. Or a Sony A6500 + lens.

Point being, I have no doubt the RX100 VII is a solid iPhone upgrade, but in my mind a late-model iPhone you already have + a "real" system for the same money is a much more appealing option.
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