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re: A little statistical reality for all you corona Nazis

Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:07 pm to
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Posted by PentagonTiger
Taylor Hall
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:10 pm to
Daddy Trump told me this is serious though. Are you trying to say that he is a corona Nazi?
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Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:12 pm to
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Well this isn’t true.

It certainly is true. And they've been caught doing it.

Conn. gov lies about infant death

JBE lies about 17 year old's death
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20297 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:13 pm to
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Unfortunately, the number of deaths is going to rise pretty significantly over the next 10-14 days. We’re probably looking at 3,000 deaths per day in around 10 days.

That’s also a statistical reality.



I just don't believe those numbers at all. Sorry.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:14 pm to
~7,700 Americans on average die every day

This virus has killed a mere 1 days worth of average deaths thus far.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:18 pm to
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This virus has killed a mere 1 days worth of average deaths thus far.

Get prepared for lock downs over gun deaths, automobile deaths, and wait for it … climate deaths.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:20 pm to
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Does that happen often?

What the hell are you talking about? Are you experiencing a fever, shortness of breath? I'm starting to get concerned.
Posted by Tiger Khan
Member since Oct 2009
2364 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:22 pm to
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My wife's cousin died in her sleep (not attributed to COVID) then 10 days later her boyfriend was hospitalized with a confirmed case.


Sorry to hear that.

Just curious -- did she have any pre-existing conditions -- respiratory ailments of any sort?
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:24 pm to
Fake news
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35819 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:26 pm to
3,000 deaths per day?

That would be astronomical.

That would mean, what's the point of even staying away from work?

"They're going to get us no matter what we do, so we might as well have a good time."
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35254 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:32 pm to
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That translates to 3 deaths per county. 3.01 to be precise.
And last Sunday it was 0.82 deaths per county, 2 Sundays ago it was 0.13 deaths per county, 3 Sundays ago it was 0.02 deaths per county, 4 Sundays ago it was 0.007 deaths per county.

If the increase in deaths maintained the same rate as the previous 4 weeks (24.25% daily; and Sunday’s figures aren’t final) over the next 4 weeks, we would be looking at 1338.1 deaths per county. And even if we managed to half that growth (12.1% daily) we would be looking at 73.5 deaths per county.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:34 pm to
So you just statistically admitted the Stay at Home orders aren't that effective? That was the point of my OP. Thanks!
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:39 pm to
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Just curious -- did she have any pre-existing conditions -- respiratory ailments of any sort?


Not that I know of my wife and her weren't super close.
She was a smoker however.

The truly scary part is the sister of the deceased spent an afternoon with the boyfriend going through her sister's things and she subsequently may have exposed her husband, all of her kids and most of her grandkids.

The possible contagion rates you hear among those in close contact is what makes it scary.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63753 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:40 pm to
You miss my point

No one in the medical community has manufactured or even exaggeratedthis pandemic. It’s a real problem.

There’s no need to question every single utterance from public health officials.
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 7:45 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35254 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:47 pm to
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3,000 deaths per day?
quote:

That would be astronomical.
Over the last 4 weeks, deaths have grown by about 25% daily. Using yesterday’s totals (1330 deaths), we could increase by about half that to get to 3,000 in 7 days.

And a per capita basis, 3,000 would be well below the equivalent of deaths (if they had our population) of the peak deaths of the countries ahead of us Spain on the curve (6,803 death equivalent), (Italy 5,031 death equivalent), as well as countries around us (France; 5,680 death equivalent) and even behind us (UK; 3,452 death equivalent) on the curve.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35254 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:53 pm to
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So you just statistically admitted the Stay at Home orders aren't that effective?
No. Eventually, we’ll be able to determine how effective they were; however, I was was actually showing the opposite.

If the rate continued, we would be looking at millions dead, but if we can slow it down, and given the nature of exponential growth, 50% of the the daily growth rate results in a 5.6% of the total deaths in 28 days.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:54 pm to
2017/18 influenza deaths had 50,000+ American deaths by this time in the flu season.
Posted by Dustydubs
Member since Mar 2020
483 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:56 pm to
While the CFR is going to come out extremely low on this Covid-19 Pandemic if it doesn’t mutate to something worse. It’s now jumping to animals again which is extremely concerning. The overall idea of the shutdown was never the death rate. It was solely due to overwhelming the healthcare system. Period! That would cause extreme amounts of unnecessary death. Basically people wouldn’t be dying of the virus per say they would be dying from the lack of any reasonable healthcare.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30190 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:57 pm to
I’m not saying it isn’t overhyped some but looking at results AFTER sweeping efforts to mitigate disaster have been implemented seems to be disingenuous.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:58 pm to
No, you clearly demonstrated that during a 21-day lock down, the numbers became exponentially larger as the lock down continued. If its not slowing the spread, and not overwhelming anything, why continue the deception?

And let's not pretend that the numbers you are citing haven't been padded, to even get to where you are claiming. I didn't even cite the huge numbers of hospice patients that died and then tested positive. They were in hospice because of a previous determination that they were days away from death. But they still counted as corona victims.
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