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re: Kaylee Hartung describes her experience with Covid-19
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:30 am to OceanMan
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:30 am to OceanMan
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People are losing their businesses and jobs and you refuse to accept it. Who is dense?
Well, many of us are in the same boat. It indeed sucks.
But to downplay this as just some media-driven overreaction to a cold is either intentionally dense or wildly naive.
I could post links from numerous respected medical associations and hospitals. I could post CDC, WHO, NIH, etc. recommendations that are totally uninfluenced by the mainstream media. I could post quotes from doctors actually on the front lines (a few dying) who are running out of equipment and are legitimately worried about an impending spike in cases.
But none of it matters. Because some people just don't want to believe it. They are frustrated with their hopefully short-term economic pain and simply can't see anything else.
ETA Spare me your own personal interpretation of the statistics as if none of these people or respected organizations and institutions could possibly be having the same thoughts you are and still feel that social distancing is necessary.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 11:32 am
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:33 am to Norbert
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They are frustrated with their hopefully short-term economic pain and simply can't see anything else.
*hopefully*
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:36 am to Norbert
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They are frustrated with their hopefully short-term economic pain
hopefully is the key word
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and simply can't see anything else.
the "economic pain" may end up taking more lives
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But to downplay this as just some media-driven overreaction to a cold is either intentionally dense or wildly naive.
the media flipped out over a travel ban with China and then fixated on a narrative about "testing" because it was how they could attack Trump (b/c the CDC dropped the fricking ball and let this get out of hand in the US)
if they had focused on the important stuff initially and supported specific isolation (both domestically and internationally), we wouldn't be nearly as bad off
Posted on 3/18/20 at 12:10 pm to Norbert
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ETA Spare me your own personal interpretation of the statistics as if none of these people or respected organizations and institutions could possibly be having the same thoughts you are and still feel that social distancing is necessary.
They aren’t the ones that have to pay the damn bill. How are they (whoever it is you are referring to) in a position to weigh benefits and costs if they aren’t paying the costs? This shite is already going to cost over $1T in the US alone based on proposed bills. The producers in this country will once again foot that bill. Losing producers is a big deal.
The people on the financial side of this are predicting just as much doom and gloom but we are just ignoring those opinions? The fed chair said yesterday this could lead to 20% unemployment which would be the worst in American history, particularly when just a month ago we were at levels that were best in the country’s history. If we believe worst case projections on either side that is pretty damn severe and you should take it as seriously as you want me to take as the health organizations (who do not in any way consider economic impacts outside of their own agencies).
Luckily, financial impacts are measured by markets, that data is real and readily available. This is having a very real impact in that regard.
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They are frustrated with their hopefully short-term economic pain and simply can't see anything else.
Hopefully is a big word there. You are clearly downplaying the economic impact just as you are accusing those that you disagree with of downplaying the health impact.
The economy is a system, it is built upon and relies on all the industries within it to operate efficiently. One failed component can, and has, brought the whole system down.
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