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Tips for my raised garden
Posted on 3/2/20 at 7:04 am
Posted on 3/2/20 at 7:04 am
I've piddled with a raised garden for a couple years but have a great hard time with tomatoes especially. But overall yield is average at best. The ground is so poor here and acidic. Mainly compact clay which is why I though a raised bed would be better in the first place. I live in central AL.
I've composted on and off for a couple years. But I have chickens now and use the pine shavings and my food scraps and leaves. I'm hoping this helps.
The soil is a mix of bagged compost and mulch along with some garden soil. I haven't tilled the ground below since it's so hard and poor (and I don't have a tiller and it's impossible to do by hand)
Crops I plant will be okra, squash, tomatoes. Are there a better tomatoes I should be trying? I've tried beefsteak, better boys, a purple looking one (can't remember the name) none seem to produce. Okra usually does ok and squash as well. Size of the bed will be 16x4.
I've composted on and off for a couple years. But I have chickens now and use the pine shavings and my food scraps and leaves. I'm hoping this helps.
The soil is a mix of bagged compost and mulch along with some garden soil. I haven't tilled the ground below since it's so hard and poor (and I don't have a tiller and it's impossible to do by hand)
Crops I plant will be okra, squash, tomatoes. Are there a better tomatoes I should be trying? I've tried beefsteak, better boys, a purple looking one (can't remember the name) none seem to produce. Okra usually does ok and squash as well. Size of the bed will be 16x4.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 7:25 am to Lucky_Stryke
Till in some 13-13-13 fertilizer and some pellitized lime. The lime will raise the pH, and this lime from Tractor Supply has magnesium and calcium which will also prevent blossom end rot on your tomatoes. Using compost, chicken shite, and pine shavings has your soil pH way off, I'd just use 13-13-13 fertilizer. Test your pH. I am 100% positive it's below 7 and to acidic.
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This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 7:40 am
Posted on 3/2/20 at 7:43 am to Lucky_Stryke
You didn't mention how deep you have your raised bed, only that it is 16x4. The depth of the mixture you have on top of your clay soil may not be sufficient to supply all the nutrients your plants will need.
My raised bed for root crops is 12x4x1 ft. deep and I tilled the clay based soil to 8 inches deep where the raised bed was going to be placed. Then I filled it with a good garden soil I got from a local soil/mulch supplier and turned it under to mix in some of the clay based soil.
My raised bed for root crops is 12x4x1 ft. deep and I tilled the clay based soil to 8 inches deep where the raised bed was going to be placed. Then I filled it with a good garden soil I got from a local soil/mulch supplier and turned it under to mix in some of the clay based soil.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 7:28 pm to Lucky_Stryke
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(and I don't have a tiller and it's impossible to do by hand)
Then don't try to tackle this all at 1 time. Set a timer on your phone for 5-10 minutes and see how far you get during that time. Then tackle a little more the next day.
Use an ax to break up the soil if you have to. You might not be able to get it ready for the spring/summer but you could plant a fall/winter garden.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 9:02 am to Lucky_Stryke
Well frick me, I was almost certain the deep soil below my raised bed was too acidic. Backyard full of pine trees and red clay soil, I assumed acidic. My tomatoes and cucumbers struggle the bigger they get and cukes some years are bitter. I use that raised bed soil from Lowe’s but my plants start great that first month and I usually water 2-3 times a week but not too too much.
Everyone I know telling me they bet it’s acidic but just checked and it’s 6 on ph scale. I even just got some lime today to throw in. Even fertility test was good. I use MG fertilizer when I put plants in ground. To add, I only tested deep in my raised garden from last year, to the red clay.
So now I’m sitting here with a bag of lime still wanting to add it
ETA: Well I tested my top 3-4 inches from stuff I’ve put in over the years and it registered 2 Last year I mostly just added cow manure and very little soil due to some bad advice and being told I already have enough soil there.
Everyone I know telling me they bet it’s acidic but just checked and it’s 6 on ph scale. I even just got some lime today to throw in. Even fertility test was good. I use MG fertilizer when I put plants in ground. To add, I only tested deep in my raised garden from last year, to the red clay.
So now I’m sitting here with a bag of lime still wanting to add it
ETA: Well I tested my top 3-4 inches from stuff I’ve put in over the years and it registered 2 Last year I mostly just added cow manure and very little soil due to some bad advice and being told I already have enough soil there.
This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 3/3/20 at 5:18 pm to Lucky_Stryke
My garden soil has a few inches of good topsoil on top of a layer of heavy clay. I spent several years amending the soil. I don't have a heavy duty tiller, so I would turn the entire garden with a shovel, getting down to a depth of about 12"-15". Once the soil was somewhat dry, I topped the soil with either a mix of busted bags from Lowe's (they sell them for 1/2 price -- peat moss, cow manure, mushroom compost, even potting soil) or a truck load of dirt from a garden center. Then tilled it in with a small tiller. Also added gypsum and lime every couple of years. Over a period of time, I've gotten the soil in much better condition, but the acidity is a constant battle.
Last year I decided to expand my garden with a couple more rows. I planted in large pots with a mix of bagged garden soil, mulch and some dirt from the garden. Those plants were just as productive as my plants in the ground.
Last year I decided to expand my garden with a couple more rows. I planted in large pots with a mix of bagged garden soil, mulch and some dirt from the garden. Those plants were just as productive as my plants in the ground.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:34 am to Lucky_Stryke
I’ve had pretty good success with tomatoes. I grow them in galvanized steel cattle troughs. I drilled holes in the bottom for drainage.
I have complete control over the soil. I mixed about 70% garden soil, 10% manure, 10% peat moss, 10% miracle grow vegetable soil. I also threw a tub of earthworms in each trough.
I’ve grown many varieties of hybrids as well as heirloom. I’ll usually grow some cherries on the patio in pots. I fertilize w liquid tomato food (Miracle Grow) pretty heavily, and sevin dust about once a week.
I have complete control over the soil. I mixed about 70% garden soil, 10% manure, 10% peat moss, 10% miracle grow vegetable soil. I also threw a tub of earthworms in each trough.
I’ve grown many varieties of hybrids as well as heirloom. I’ll usually grow some cherries on the patio in pots. I fertilize w liquid tomato food (Miracle Grow) pretty heavily, and sevin dust about once a week.
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