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Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:29 pm
Posted by TechDawg2007
Bawville
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:29 pm
So much for him being there at 24
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10385 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:39 pm to
Still could totally be there. There's minimum 3 WRs still for sure ahead of him and 2-3 others are potentially in the same range depending on the team.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14631 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:46 pm to
I think he'll still be there at 24. He's more of a possession WR than a big play guy & he has average size. Might even be there in the early 2nd, but I can't see him falling much further than that.

Honestly, I think the Saints would prefer a different kind of WR than him. I wouldn't complain if we drafted him though. He's very solid.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 6:48 pm
Posted by BUGAtGOAT
Munroe
Member since Oct 2015
1898 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 7:01 pm to
A guy with 443 speed who runs amazing routes and has great hands is not ever going to be defined as a possession receiver. He already appeared to be an absolute perfect fit for what we need. He just solidified that he would be everything we need and more for a number two receiver.

Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8488 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 7:08 pm to
Starting to change my mind about the first round. I figured we'd go OL but the more I think about it, we need OL guys we can rely on Day One and maybe that's best addressed in FA. I feel like we've been trying to solve the Receiver problem on the cheap for too long. Might be time to go (relatively) big and grab one at 24.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41356 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 7:14 pm to
but...but...but...LSU?
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8488 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 7:18 pm to
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14631 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

A guy with 443 speed who runs amazing routes and has great hands is not ever going to be defined as a possession receiver.


Why not? He was a possession WR at LSU. He caught a ton of balls with a low ypc. Chase & Marshall were the big play guys for us.

He had some big plays, but he was usually the guy that kept the chains moving. I'm not saying that he can't become a big play guy in the NFL, but that wasn't his forte in college.

I'm not saying I don't like him. I'd more than pleased if we drafted him.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 8:09 pm
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3451 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 10:17 pm to
He led the entire NCAA in catches, was 2nd in touchdowns, and 3rd in yards. Terrace Marshall was much more of a possession receiver for LSU than the guy who just ran a 4.43 at the combine. Your post is embarrassing
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14631 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 10:24 pm to
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He led the entire NCAA in catches, was 2nd in touchdowns, and 3rd in yards.


I don't see how this disproves what I said. You're going to rack up yards & td's when you have 111 catches. He's elite in short/intermediate routes. Call it embarrassing if you want.

Chase - 84 catches, 1780 yards, 21.2 avg, 20 tds.

Jefferson - 111 catches, 1540 yards, 13.9 avg, 18 tds.

I never said I didn't want him. I'd be cool with us taking him at 24. I just stated how he was used in college, & the question was if he could be relied upon as a big play guy in the NFL. Not sure why people are so upset with my posts in this thread. I never said anything negative about the guy. Seems to be a touchy subject. Jesus Christ.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 10:34 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78152 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 10:33 pm to
He averaged 13.9 ypc

He wasn’t Chase But he as better than almost every WR in CFP.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
39518 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 10:34 pm to
Larry Fitzgerald ran like a 4.47 at his pro day and he might be the best possession receiver of all time. It’s not a knock. Fitz will be a first ballot hall of famer. Jefferson worked across the middle and in the intermediate area for the most part. Also known as a possession receiver. Don’t be so testy that Jefferson isn’t getting fitted for his gold jacket by everyone on the board.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14631 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 10:36 pm to
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Larry Fitzgerald ran like a 4.47 at his pro day and he might be the best possession receiver of all time. It’s not a knock. Fitz will be a first ballot hall of famer. Jefferson worked across the middle and in the intermediate area for the most part. Also known as a possession receiver.


That's all I'm saying. I'm actually confused at how much shite I'm getting for my posts. I thought I was being perfectly reasonable.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
39518 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 10:36 pm to
I mean yea, he’s really good. Doesn’t change the fact that he wasn’t really a deep ball guy, which is what the other guy said and got jumped all over. He’s absolutely right. Not sure how y’all watched him all year and concluded that he isn’t a prototype possession receiver.

The best possession receiver in the game right now plays in New Orleans and y’all are acting like it’s disrespectful

Hell, it’s a good thing if you want him in NOLA. I’d be shocked if there’s a single team out there that has him higher than 4th on their WR board
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 10:39 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78152 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 10:42 pm to
He’s an every ball kind of guy.

He played a roll at LSU but he also took a lot of long passes to the house and a lot of short passes to the house
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 10:44 pm
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
39518 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

but he also took a lot of long passes to the house


No he didn’t. He had 3 TDS over 50 yards in his career.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78152 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 10:58 pm to
thats A retarded measure of deep threat.

He caught at least 1 pass 35 yards or longer in. 9/15 games this year.

Possession recovers don’t averaged near 14 yards a catch
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 11:00 pm
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14631 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:07 pm to
Nobody is questioning his hands, route running, & short/intermediate game.

I'm just looking at it from a NFL scouts point of view. Do you think he will be a legit deep threat/big play guy in the NFL?

That's what I'm questioning. I'm not saying he will or won't. I'm just saying the question that needs to be asked, b/c we already have THE BEST possession WR that thrives on short/intermediate routes. We need someone that can do what Michael Thomas can't do, b/c the safeties will cheat up & suffocate our passing game if there is no threat of a deep pass.

Pretty simple. If you think the answer is yes, then you take him.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 11:57 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78152 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

I'm just looking at it from a NFL scouts point of view. Do you think he will be a legit deep threat/big play guy in the NFL?


He just ran a BLAZING 40

Yes I do.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
39518 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:14 pm to
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Possession recovers don’t averaged near 14 yards a catch


In college they absolutely do. I mean look at the guys ahead of him on the board, all have better yards per reception.

He just tested and measured out of this world on the back of an amazingly productive season and he’s going to be the 4th receiver drafted at best. Why do you think that is? It’s because he’s not viewed as a WR1. Because his bread and butter is intermediate routes and not beating corners over the top. I’m not going to argue it with you anymore. You’re taking it as a personal insult when it’s all right there on tape. There’s a reason the other 3 are ahead of him now and will be on draft day. You’re describing a guy that would be the bonafide WR1 because you love LSU. He’s not though. He won’t be in April. He’s going to be a fantastic WR2 wherever he ends up. That’s a compliment. Tyler Boyd is making a nice career of it. Roddy White made a nice career of it. Emmanuel Sanders made a nice career of it. Don’t take it as a personal slight or insult. That’s always been what he is. Yesterday half this board had him as a second round pick. Did he change as a player between then and now? The tape has always been there
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