Started By
Message
locked post

Villain for a third Batman film?

Posted on 7/8/08 at 8:12 pm
Posted by FredSecunda
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
7188 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 8:12 pm
So just about everyone knows Harvey Dent will turn into Two Face at some point in The Dark Knight, but my question is, what classic Batman villain would you like to see Christopher Nolan tackle for a third Batman film?

He's already said he won't do the Penguin or Robin, because those characters are too hokey and unbelieveable for his genre of Batman. By the same token, you'd think villains like Mr. Freeze, Catwoman, and Clayface wouldn't work in Nolan's world either.

The reason why it's safe to assume there will be at least one more villain if a third film is made is Batman Begins had three main villains (Ras Al Ghul, Scarecrow, and Carmine Falcone) and The Dark Knight has The Joker, Sal Maroni, Lau, and eventually Two Face.

What about The Riddler as some sort of Unabomber-type terrorist?
Posted by MasonTiger
Mason, Ohio
Member since Jan 2005
18419 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 8:15 pm to
The Riddler
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52895 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 8:15 pm to
I guess one has to ask how long do they plan on running this series first...

How long are Nolan, Caine, and Bale willing to stick?
Posted by FredSecunda
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
7188 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

I guess one has to ask how long do they plan on running this series first...

How long are Nolan, Caine, and Bale willing to stick?



Personally, I don't know where they would take the story for a third film. I just don't want them to start repeating themselves. But, if they make say $500 million at the box office, maybe they'll decide they can throw something together.
Posted by The Godfather
Surrounded by Assholes
Member since Mar 2005
42442 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

Personally, I don't know where they would take the story for a third film. I just don't want them to start repeating themselves. But, if they make say $500 million at the box office, maybe they'll decide they can throw something together.





3rd is already a lock...Bale is signed to do 3 films
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 8:19 pm to
how about having investigate the Green Hornet and Kato as criminals, even though their good guys, they were vigilantes, not considered heros.

They would get pissed and take him on.
Posted by Acreboy
Member since Nov 2005
38568 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 8:19 pm to
Te Riddler in Nolans twisted Batman world would rule.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
25778 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 8:21 pm to
I think Nolan does a great job of making the characters "believable" like Scarecrow.

I dont see him doing Penguin, Clayface,Mr Freeze, or Catwoman.


I think Riddler or Bane would be legit.

Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
Prairieville/Dutchtown
Member since Dec 2003
16759 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 8:22 pm to
spoiler
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
from what i understand, he turns into two-face towards the end setting up the 3rd. the same way the commissioner had the joker card in begins setting up the dark knight.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38397 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

He's already said he won't do the Penguin or Robin, because those characters are too hokey and unbelieveable for his genre of Batman. By the same token, you'd think villains like Mr. Freeze, Catwoman, and Clayface wouldn't work in Nolan's world either.



Catwoman could work, but it won't be her since that piece of shite Berry did. I think Freeze COULD work, but Nolan would have to be very careful. Nolan's Gotham is a tough thing to deal with when considering a comic book. Part of what makes it so brilliant.

quote:

The reason why it's safe to assume there will be at least one more villain if a third film is made is Batman Begins had three main villains (Ras Al Ghul, Scarecrow, and Carmine Falcone) and The Dark Knight has The Joker, Sal Maroni, Lau, and eventually Two Face.


Scarecrow also shows up in Dark Knight.

My thoughts:

Freeze or Riddler would be even more villains used from the previous Batman movies. Although I think Riddler is frickin perfect for Nolan's world, I don't know if he'll want to keep going back to those villains. Plus, Carey's Riddler was actually very very good.

Nolan seems very heavy on the mob stuff so we could see Rupert Thorne (prevelant in Batman the animated series) or Black Mask.

Who would I want to see:

Bane - Number 1 choice (would be perfect as the villain by himself, setting up a fourth film with Christian Bale as a side character, giving him a break to come back for 5) Even without that, Bane should be considered.

Scarface and the ventroloquist - Tough to do, but could be worth it

Prof. Hugo Strange - Would be a good storyline

There are great villains from the Animated Series, not the comic books, that would work extremely well.

HARDAC - Artificial Intelligence/Super computer
Red Claw
Phantasm

There's a specific episode called "The Grey Ghost," that, if combined with another storyline, would make a frickin fantastic film. The series was much darker than anything done before, and could be mined for ideas.

Bane and Riddler as top choices overall though

They have to avoid using too many villains, but there are some storylines/villains you could possibly combine. Nolan has my complete trust though, whatever he chooses will be fine with me.
This post was edited on 7/8/08 at 8:33 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60717 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

I guess one has to ask how long do they plan on running this series first...



I thought they had planned on 3? I shouldn't ask, cause I don't want to know but is it possible 2 face is the villian? I mean Harvey Dent could get burned late in the movie and set up the 3rd?

Beyond that, I think the Riddler could be done right by Nolan. Looks/Sounds like he nailed the Joker, who was a big douche in Batman and the TV show.
Posted by FredSecunda
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
7188 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

3rd is already a lock...Bale is signed to do 3 films





Bale, Oldman, and Michael Caine are all signed on....but Christopher Nolan isn't. Not saying he won't, but he hasn't said he'll do a third yet.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30065 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

Bale, Oldman, and Michael Caine are all signed on....but Christopher Nolan isn't. Not saying he won't, but he hasn't said he'll do a third yet.



Nolen would be more important then anyone. He has done such a great job setting the mood, and making the outrageous seem believable and realistic. I don't think anyone else could pull it off nearly as well.
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8797 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 9:50 pm to
Considering we are trying to keep this as spoiler-free as possible, we don't know if the Joker survives TDK or not. Two-Face is indeed being setup for the thrid film though, so that film I don't think the Riddler is viable because that was the team-up of villians in Batman Forever...I definitely want to see the Riddler, but he could carry a film on his own and doesn't need the complicated story of Two-Face vs. Batman in the way.

Nolan, I am convinced, could pull off King Tut and Egghead at this point (ridiculous villians from the old TV series for the uninformed), so I don't think the Penguin (picture Phillip Seymore Hoffman here) out of the realm of possibility. Catwoman, in some manner, would be a great addition for that romantic dynamic-with or without Rachel Dawes.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30065 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 10:02 pm to
Really sucks that Ledger died. I think they intended on him being in more then just this one. He is Batman's arch nemesis in the comic books, no?
Posted by lsutigersFTW
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2008
7785 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 10:08 pm to
*Spoiler*
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
Edward Nygma (The Riddler) does appear in The Dark Knight, so common logic would lead you to believe he'll be back in the 3rd movie.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
25778 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

Edward Nygma (The Riddler) does appear in The Dark Knight


Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

Edward Nygma (The Riddler) does appear in The Dark Knight


Played by?
Posted by lsutigersFTW
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2008
7785 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 10:33 pm to
quote:

Played by?


Anthony Michael Hall
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41879 posts
Posted on 7/8/08 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

Anthony Michael Hall



is Mike Engel not the riddler
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 4Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram